Friday Update, April 6, 2012

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

well talking about accuracy is well known that the hurricane had a big disadvantage with the emil.

Not in turning it didn't. My original post was about turning.

Why people are bringing up top speed and climb rates I don't know.

Originally Posted by klem

Well while the FMs are SNAFU here's a possibly non-historical tip you could try. Put on about 5 degrees of flap in the Rotol Hurricane (about 1-1.5 seconds Flap Down then Flap Neutral). Tightens the turns a bit.

I don't think the 109 elevator trim trick can be historically accurate or at least widely used or history would tell us that the 109 out-turned the Hurricane and Spitfire instead of the other way round.

Thankfully, an experience Hurricane crew member who agrees! I would rather blame the FM's than me - I've been flying too long

I do use flap when I have to but it totally burns my energy. Usually I will try to leave the fight when I've realised that the 109 pilot is not a beginner, but he's used to that too. I have force 109's into spins into the deck using flap, that's the most successful technique so far!

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Not in turning it didn't. My original post was about turning.

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Thankfully, an experience Hurricane crew member who agrees! I would rather blame the FM's than me - I've been flying too long

I do use flap when I have to but it totally burns my energy. Usually I will try to leave the fight when I've realised that the 109 pilot is not a beginner, but he's used to that too. I have force 109's into spins into the deck using flap, that's the most successful technique so far!

Hi. What is the corner speed of the Hurri? What is your turning speed in combat? Please record a track next time, i am curious, how can the 109 outturn the Hurri. We fly 1v1 2v2 very often (usually i fly the red planes), and the 109 only chance the energy fight...

Originally Posted by Osprey

Why people are bringing up top speed and climb rates I don't know.

Because the level speed the only accurrate values, what you can measuring easily. If you have test values (or at least a track), we can discuss. The subjective feelings and speculation can not be taken seriously (IIRC none of us is a professional test pilot ).