Friday Update, April 6, 2012

[Osprey]

Hi Jatta, yes but you are flying the Spitfire and I have less trouble in the dogfight with it, but against somebody very good even being very good won't be enough. Still, good advice for it, i'm talking about the Hurricane which is what I normally fly.

And to all, it's about accuracy for me and not about trying to get stuff removed in order to gain advantage. Thanks.

[6S.Tamat]

well talking about accuracy is well known that the hurricane had a big disadvantage with the emil.

Then we can talk about the FM problems, and would be a long talk, but it is another argument.

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by Osprey

..., i'm talking about the Hurricane which is what I normally fly.

And to all, it's about accuracy for me and not about trying to get stuff removed in order to gain advantage. Thanks.

you're welcome!, well ok the Hurricane is a complete different issue, feels sluggish and heavy for my taste, maybe faster than Spits, but its maneuverability will get me killed at the present; never really learned it yet.

i hope the Spit isn't giving me bad habits, like getting lazy relying too much on super agility and such (i'm always trying to learn how to better keep my energy though); on the other hand, rookie mistakes made by 109s may be more easy to exploit... i have mostly one type of foe atm, so combat is becoming a rather patterned issue for me. (ok i lost a fight against a 109 some days ago but i was drunk )

[Luftwaffepilot]

please get rid of these blurry textures. It doesn't look good tbh.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

you're welcome!, well ok the Hurricane is a complete different issue, feels sluggish and heavy for my taste, maybe faster than Spits, but its maneuverability will get me killed at the present; never really learned it yet.

i hope the Spit isn't giving me bad habits, like getting lazy relying too much on super agility and such (i'm always trying to learn how to better keep my energy though); on the other hand, rookie mistakes made by 109s may be more easy to exploit... i have mostly one type of foe atm, so combat is becoming a rather patterned issue for me. (ok i lost a fight against a 109 some days ago but i was drunk )

Actually on ATAG I see too often lone 109s trying to follow read planes in turn-fight ... tsk tsk ...

[Il2Pongo]

I like the little shy german tank with a 75mm(Pz IV? Stug III?) peaking around the corner in a few shots.

[Stealth_Eagle]

Originally Posted by Il2Pongo

I like the little shy german tank with a 75mm(Pz IV? Stug III?) peaking around the corner in a few shots.

I see it as well. It appears to be a German PZ IV due to the hull shape and the gun fitted on it is not historical for the time period (didn't the PZ IV with L/43 come to service in late 1942. Forgive me if I am wrong).

[Ailantd]

Coming from online session right now... I hope the patch will be available soon... It´s incredibly frustating when game chrash in THAT moment... or the huge fps drop when aproaching a bomber formation.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

I see it as well. It appears to be a German PZ IV due to the hull shape and the gun fitted on it is not historical for the time period (didn't the PZ IV with L/43 come to service in late 1942. Forgive me if I am wrong).

The previous versions with the short 75mm/L24 didn't disappear when the new Panzer IV Ausf. F2 (renamed Ausf. G soon) appeared. Some were still in use the year after.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

well talking about accuracy is well known that the hurricane had a big disadvantage with the emil.

Not in turning it didn't. My original post was about turning.

Why people are bringing up top speed and climb rates I don't know.

Originally Posted by klem

Well while the FMs are SNAFU here's a possibly non-historical tip you could try. Put on about 5 degrees of flap in the Rotol Hurricane (about 1-1.5 seconds Flap Down then Flap Neutral). Tightens the turns a bit.

I don't think the 109 elevator trim trick can be historically accurate or at least widely used or history would tell us that the 109 out-turned the Hurricane and Spitfire instead of the other way round.

Thankfully, an experience Hurricane crew member who agrees! I would rather blame the FM's than me - I've been flying too long

I do use flap when I have to but it totally burns my energy. Usually I will try to leave the fight when I've realised that the 109 pilot is not a beginner, but he's used to that too. I have force 109's into spins into the deck using flap, that's the most successful technique so far!