Communication poll

[carguy_]

Voted option #2.

Originally Posted by BigPickle

I think you misunderstand him andy, He loves Cliffs of Dover, thats why he is here, complaining about the lack of info about if its being put right.

Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.

I think you should look at it from your own point of view, you dont have to come here either, if you dont like to read your fellow IL2 customers complaints.

Oh, so this forum should be filled with rant and complaint threads instead? So you spread false info freely? Not a chance, boy.

Not nice to hear that is it? Maybe you souldnt say it to others. You dont have to read their threads after all do you.

You or your complaints with no contructive content are not welcome here so you may be on your way.

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately. Regardless of what he says, it always ends up with the same old whiners making the same old whine. What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

What a load of toss, Luthier was thick skinned enough to release a game in alpha state, and he has posted here since release when he knows that we all know half the stuff he told us during development was blatent lying i.e the game didn't run well at the Russian show because the PC's only had 2GB of ram. So im sure us having a dig about communication isnt going to ruin his nights sleep.

[furbs]

carguy wrote

Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.


No...whats killing COD is bad reviews of a broken product, if COD worked all the "whines" would go away.

The US release is on the 19th, and the sound is broken in MP. thats the problem carguy.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

Apples and oranges. I am very patient when it comes to sim development. I fully understand the problems of developing a niche product with often very limited funds and a fickle customer base. Honest communication is the key in such cases. The guys at Battlefont, eSimGames, DCS and NeoQB/777 studios know how to interact with their customers.

Luthier&Co's communication with their customers OTOH seems only slightly better than their abysmal project management.

I still try to see the positive side though: it can only get better.

[Pudfark]

Even Pea Wii Herman was more forthcoming....

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

carguy wrote
No...whats killing COD is bad reviews of a broken product, if COD worked all the "whines" would go away.

Wrong. In spite of what moaners say and post, the game can easily be enjoyable as it is playable and scalable. They never acknowledge it. Just say the game`s broken and that`s that. Yes, it is broken, but what does that say really? The truth is that it`s not all bad like complainers love to post. Many people (that rarely get so vocal about it, maye because they`re playing the game instead) don`t even have to try to get fun out of this product. But you ofcourse tend to say it`s completely broken, which is lying to those not able to check what state the game is in.
And stop saying the whines are good in any way. They aren`t.

The US release is on the 19th, and the sound is broken in MP. thats the problem carguy.

Which doesn`t mean that it`s not worth the price or unplayable. You will never find a post with me saying there isn`t a sound bug but I don`t even need to search for posts which daily lie that the game is unplayable.

[Sammi79]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loH5kALsj34

Just for those who chose the 4th option an old lesson that took me a long time to learn when I was 4 years old. Oh, how I used to wail and stamp my feet.

p.s. yes that is Hugh Laurie singing the Stones old classic.

[lothar29]

I am aware of the difficulties that the team of luthier with CoD has been, is for the reason that it is, but also is to say fixed customers a little bit of information each week does not cost anything, or if?
I would also say to those who try to hide the failures of CoD that are not so naive, as are many people that we have problems even with CoD, because four well them I not leave request that the problems I have, if other top products work me best on my computer solve...


Are too many errors that are obvious, I never I usually complain, but it is that I'm here reading some comments which are surprising to me...Indeed one believes that the CoD this ready to be sold? to my sold me as a finished product, and it was not, that in my country is called cheating, lying...
not be, is not nor the pilot's notes full! I no I spent 70€ to not use them, without working! some of here whether they have the same work, but it is not my case, and when I see that some say above luthier ceases to speak with the community for comments like this, I get angry even more, because I think that everything has begun, with his misinformation... If des for the first time the people had been informed, this would not written here... so that those who do well the CoD wish them the best, and that as I still do wrong, we must have patience and pray to God Luthier so you have compassion for their clients...

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

Valid point other than this wasn't released in the usual game industry standard now was it? your point there stands no ground whatsoever

Originally Posted by carguy_

Voted option #2.

Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.

Oh, so this forum should be filled with rant and complaint threads instead? So you spread false info freely? Not a chance, boy.

You or your complaints with no contructive content are not welcome here so you may be on your way.

LOL and she's back, I can hear that Black Beauty Music again.

This Boy has been told?
You trying to be racist Car Guy? Because obviously you understand that Boy is used as a racial derogatory term right, and regardless of your opinion of what i feel about the communication here that is quite a silly expression to use, I would suggest you choose words more wisely when your trying to be-little someone.
I shall presume you are refering to me as immature right?

For your information I voted 3