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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Very happy, the developers will communicate when ready, im happy to wait. 21 11.17%
i would like to get a update more often but im not worried 66 35.11%
The communication has been poor and not what i would expect, not very happy. 40 21.28%
Communication is terrible and its affecting how i feel about the developers and COD 61 32.45%
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:24 PM
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I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately. Regardless of what he says, it always ends up with the same old whiners making the same old whine. What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:33 PM
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Yes Andy, but Luthier wants us to buy his next product and the one after...or maybe there isn't a next product as someone has told me?
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:38 PM
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What? despite the fact only 2 weeks ago we were told by the devs there is a next product, this 'someone' guy......I'd love to meet him, everybody seems to know him but nobody knows who it is but he has told everyone something.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:41 PM
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What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?
I think you misunderstand him andy, He loves Cliffs of Dover, thats why he is here, complaining about the lack of info about if its being put right.

I think you should look at it from your own point of view, you dont have to come here either, if you dont like to read your fellow IL2 customers complaints.

Not nice to hear that is it? Maybe you souldnt say it to others. You dont have to read their threads after all do you.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:48 PM
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Voted option #2.
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I think you misunderstand him andy, He loves Cliffs of Dover, thats why he is here, complaining about the lack of info about if its being put right.
Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.

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I think you should look at it from your own point of view, you dont have to come here either, if you dont like to read your fellow IL2 customers complaints.
Oh, so this forum should be filled with rant and complaint threads instead? So you spread false info freely? Not a chance, boy.

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Not nice to hear that is it? Maybe you souldnt say it to others. You dont have to read their threads after all do you.
You or your complaints with no contructive content are not welcome here so you may be on your way.
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:26 PM
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Voted option #2.

Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.

Oh, so this forum should be filled with rant and complaint threads instead? So you spread false info freely? Not a chance, boy.

You or your complaints with no contructive content are not welcome here so you may be on your way.
LOL and she's back, I can hear that Black Beauty Music again.

This Boy has been told?
You trying to be racist Car Guy? Because obviously you understand that Boy is used as a racial derogatory term right, and regardless of your opinion of what i feel about the communication here that is quite a silly expression to use, I would suggest you choose words more wisely when your trying to be-little someone.
I shall presume you are refering to me as immature right?

For your information I voted 3

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Old 07-16-2011, 06:43 PM
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Carguy, what part of COD are you playing so much?
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Carguy, what part of COD are you playing so much?
SP German campaign plus offline skirmishes, quick escort sorties and sighseeing flights.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:28 PM
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This communication issue is a bit of a wierd one.

I think we got used to Luthier posting regular patch news in the early days of this sim, and now that the patches have been moved to a longer schedule, we don't really have anything to go on, news-wise, on a weekly basis anymore.
Many of us are sitting on our hands eagerly awaiting that weekly slice of news, and the longer we wait the more agitated we become. It becomes a bit of an obsession.
To me many if not most of us here are a little bit guilty of micro analysis, in that every little aspect of this game, mostly the broken stuff, has been discussed again and again and again, and a tunnel vision, almost obessessiveness, has developed.
It's like when your favourite football team has hit the skids and fans go into panic mode and post and talk obsessively about what's wrong and what the manager should do. You desperately want the situation to change but you can't do it yourself, so you think, analyse, vent, fret, moan and worry until the crisis passes.

I was starting to obsess a bit a few weeks back, and for me the best thing to do was to just go do something else and take my mind off it all for a while. Not saying everyone should do this, but it does help to put things into perspective a bit.

Anyway, my point is that the forum feels agitated, maybe more than is neccessary, about the fact that we don't hear too much from Luthier these days.
But having said that, I find it puzzling that mere days before the US launch, we still haven't had any news. I don't see them postponing the launch again, not at this late stage, and to hear absolutely not even a snippet of news is not acceptable, at least to me.
The community manager never appeared, and proposed more regular updates have not either.
I can't really blame people for being annoyed by the situation, but again I think that the annoyance has for some, gone well beyond annoyance or agitation, and they're driving themselves nuts.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:51 PM
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Just to clarify,i want to buy the sim BUT i cannot justify spending the money on upgrading my computer to run it + the cost of the game on the off chance it MAY be completed oneday and the lack of input is such a poor selling point.
When you are struggling you get a better response from others and leeway if you keep communicating,explaining.
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