Trying to play allowing losses is horrible

[dbgager]

You no loss people are what ruined the game to begin with. If you guys where not insisting that you cannot play with out losses...the game could be made harder.

[Razorflame]

LOL

It's mostly the NO-lossers that are complaining lol

your argument is really laughing my ass off hahah

it's because the NO lossers that the game got more challenging to begin with so show some respect

[Fatt_Shade]

@dbgager

You no loss people are what ruined the game to begin with. If you guys where not insisting that you cannot play with out losses...the game could be made harder.

You my friend just went full retard. No loss impossible game is hardest way to play, and you say without it game could get harder. Pls elaborate your thought train, because you make no sense at all.
How can something be improved without testing it`s limits, and that is no loss plays are about testing what crazy things you can do. Which in other hand caused devs to make WotN harder in gameplay with so many limitations and battles that you have to lose units in.

[Xargon]

Did the devs say that they are reacting to no-loss people? Why does everyone assume they care about it at all? They probably got some feedback about general perception of difficulty (presumably from the Russian forum) and reacted to that, is the no-loss crowd very vocal there?

Personally, I find both sides annoying: the people who insist that you have to be able to do a no-loss run and the people who like to tell the no-loss people that their efforts are stupid.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Xargon

Did the devs say that they are reacting to no-loss people? Why does everyone assume they care about it at all? They probably got some feedback about general perception of difficulty (presumably from the Russian forum) and reacted to that, is the no-loss crowd very vocal there?

Personally, I find both sides annoying: the people who insist that you have to be able to do a no-loss run and the people who like to tell the no-loss people that their efforts are stupid.

[shrugs] I'm a pragmatist. I only did no loss because it was inherently necessary in Armored Princess.

It isn't quite that necessary now though but I still prefer doing it, but I'm not going to mind THAT much if I lose a few troops to bosses.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by Xargon

Did the devs say that they are reacting to no-loss people? Why does everyone assume they care about it at all? They probably got some feedback about general perception of difficulty (presumably from the Russian forum) and reacted to that, is the no-loss crowd very vocal there?

Personally, I find both sides annoying: the people who insist that you have to be able to do a no-loss run and the people who like to tell the no-loss people that their efforts are stupid.

I bet you do watch the forums all the time and peak in on the information that experts post here to HELP you make your game easier

for without the walktroughs and stuff posted here by certain people
I bet you wouldn't even think of a no-loss
The no loss concept came from people bragging on the forums since who would be the best

hence forth the no loss fastest run was born on TL and later in AP
Those people made things interesting to see how fast or how easy u could finish the game
i bet half the things you know, you wouldn't even find out on yourself it because other people done it already and posted it here

so no i think u are certainly whining about the people who say no loss is stupid
because the no loss people only post information or go in with people who say it;s stupid or how it can be done

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

LOL

It's mostly the NO-lossers that are complaining lol

your argument is really laughing my ass off hahah

it's because the NO lossers that the game got more challenging to begin with so show some respect

The game was never challanging. KBAP/CW for example is a joke, if left unedited.
TL a bit more challanging because of no medals but still very easy game.

WotN the only challanging thing in the game is Boss Spider. And he can be beaten with trolls with so much ease that almost turns off the challange.

Keep dreaming. But yes, his argument is poor. It's not players fault, it's developers fault for not being able to do some proper balancing and maybe to do some proper difficulty levels for a game.

[tiberiu]

[QUOTE=ckdamascus;481801][shrugs] I'm a pragmatist. I only did no loss because it was inherently necessary in Armored Princess.



Was it "necessary"? I don't really remember it so. I have the game installed and it surely isn't necessary to lose no units. You really don't even need the medal strategist for some extra leadership, in AP there's no Boss Spider that must be defeated early so.... definetly NOT necessary, which would imply that that is the only way. Maybe you need to use better dragon abilities and cast better spells?

[Xargon]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

I bet you do watch the forums all the time and peak in on the information that experts post here to HELP you make your game easier

for without the walktroughs and stuff posted here by certain people
I bet you wouldn't even think of a no-loss
The no loss concept came from people bragging on the forums since who would be the best

hence forth the no loss fastest run was born on TL and later in AP
Those people made things interesting to see how fast or how easy u could finish the game
i bet half the things you know, you wouldn't even find out on yourself it because other people done it already and posted it here

so no i think u are certainly whining about the people who say no loss is stupid
because the no loss people only post information or go in with people who say it;s stupid or how it can be done

You are making a whole lot of assumptions. Most of the information I got from the forums that I actually used in the game is info about quests and bugs (apart from that, some technical questions about burning etc). The gameplay is not that hard to figure out. I still don't care about no loss, but have virtually no losses in the game anyway - if it's possible without much effort, why not. I would gladly take your bet about half the things I know. And I don't see me whining about one side or the other.
This is the last time I'll reply to anything written in a tone like yours.

[ckdamascus]

[QUOTE=tiberiu;481866]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

[shrugs] I'm a pragmatist. I only did no loss because it was inherently necessary in Armored Princess.



Was it "necessary"? I don't really remember it so. I have the game installed and it surely isn't necessary to lose no units. You really don't even need the medal strategist for some extra leadership, in AP there's no Boss Spider that must be defeated early so.... definetly NOT necessary, which would imply that that is the only way. Maybe you need to use better dragon abilities and cast better spells?

Haha, clearly I needed to learn how to play better to learn how to lose units and survive!

Actually, I didn't play it on loss mode in Impossible.

I suppose in hindsight, I could have done fine with allowing some losses across boss fights (like losing 50 archers in the final battle against baal).

I think early on it is important for the leadership medals. If you can somehow beat a Verona guardian with little leadership without using a tedious/boring strategy, I'd love to see a video of that.

Later on, when you have a lot more gold, the right skills for a solid strategy, and right units, you definitely have more leeway in allowing losses.