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[Nike-it]

Originally Posted by Imperial Dane

Sure i'll try and find the screenshots i saw that featured the not to good english.

Well the first one is this one:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen018.jpg
Most of the English is good actually (although i am sure some of my teachers might disagree ) It's more the "Dwarves' underground" you mention

For example, "I need the maps of Dwarves' undergrounds." Well it just lacks a The infront of Dwarves and it's good.. although i was very close to posting a deeper explanation with several different versions which i think would be better (Damn you university education !)

And then there is the second choice:
"Well informed people told me you have dwarves' maps"
and that one isn't right either, and i am somewhat certain that you can't say "dwarves' " in this case it's because it pretty much says he's got all of the dwarven nation or nations maps or some specific group of dwarves maps, but as far as i know it's an unknown group of dwarfs maps he is looking for..
So in this case it would be better to say:
"Well informed people told me you have dwarven maps"

Oh dear.. I actually went ahead and did some grammar stuff.. sorry about that

Otherwise i recall something with a screenshot showing how you leveled up and the level up screen saying something not quite right either.

Hope this helps.

According to my knowledge, both variants are correct But anyway thanks for information.

[Imperial Dane]

Well then, sorry. Just looked weird to me.

[WannaLearnEnglish]

Originally Posted by Imperial Dane

Well then, sorry. Just looked weird to me.

Yep,

You guys at KATAURI should know one thing about English. (and about any other language as well)

If a NATIVE speaker says "it's weird", IT IS WRONG.

This (and not grammar rules of any kind) is actually a DEFINITION of what is right and what is wrong in any Language Ask any professional Linguist.

BTW, it is the kind of feedback I was looking for from you guys in my posts. My English may be good or bad, but undoubtly you somehow SEE that I'm not a native speaker. That is, somewhere I wrote something that may be grammatically correct, but... "people just do not say it that way"

This is actually a dead and final shot. NATIVE speakers, by the very definition, speak ENGLISH, correct or uncorrect grammatically. Foreigners DO NOT.

This is what is wrong with the translation. You see, in order to write good English one SHOULD NOT use vocabulary at all. Or use it for spelling purposes ONLY. And it looks like KB translators do not understand this, and use 'single word' translators heavily.

E.g. in this JPG: "Nothing connects me to the King..."

It looks very suspicious to me. Looks like word-to-word translation from Russian. Does the verb "connects" actually get used in this context? I DO NOT KNOW. I would use something like "links" instead, to be in safe zone.

The translation may be right or wrong in this particular case, but the general rule is - NEVER use word-to-word translations. And there are multiple and abundant cases of such abuse in the screenshots I saw.

[WannaLearnEnglish]

So, in order to correct my posts (or KB translations), just spot the cases where it looks "weird". Then say it exactly like you say it in, say, Eastern Kentucky.

That would be perfect English. You see, even your grammar mistakes would be NATIVE grammar mistakes. And usage of those is actually also necessary for really GOOD knowledge of English

[WannaLearnEnglish]

I'm NOT a native speaker, but to give you an example. See the quoted JPG file:

Original text: "Do you know, BJ, what question I keep asking to myself and from which my head is ready to burst"

Bugs (imho): 1. "to myself". 2. "from which" - typical russian, imho

Suggestion: "what question I keep asking myself, what question makes my head ready to burst?"

I'm not sure whether "bursting head" idiom is used in English. But the idiom looks right, so I left it as it is. Again, to keep myself in safe zone I may simply use "makes my head sick" or just "makes me sick". But this simplistic way would take a lot of charm from the game...

[WannaLearnEnglish]

Then add some "English":

".. what question I keep asking myself all the way, what damn question makes me sick and tired?"

[Sol Invictus]

Originally Posted by WannaLearnEnglish

So, in order to correct my posts (or KB translations), just spot the cases where it looks "weird". Then say it exactly like you say it in, say, Eastern Kentucky.

That would be perfect English. You see, even your grammar mistakes would be NATIVE grammar mistakes. And usage of those is actually also necessary for really GOOD knowledge of English

Please don't use Eastern Kentucky dialect as a guide or you will end up with some very strange gibberish that most of the United States won't understand. If the King asks you to search for his lost horde he might get a reply like this: "We'uns ain't gunna go a lookin fer yer loot cause we gunna go git some vittles". That would be a crime.

[WannaLearnEnglish]

One certainly can use this kind of 'dialect' for SOME characters in the computer game. And this would be viewed only as a 'very good and professional translation' and GOOD English.

Robbers from Freedom Islands are not supposed to speak Oxford English, are they?

BTW, what does "uns" mean in "we'uns" ? Looks like Germanism

[Sol Invictus]

Uns is just an added "word" that doesn't really need to be there and doesn't really mean anything. We are not would be a correct form for We'uns aint. It is similar to saying you all or ya'll. I imagine that much of the Eastern Kentucky dialect is influenced by by Scot/Irish since they settled in these parts and much of Appalachia, though there is some German influence as well. I guess if the game used a certain dialect in remote parts of the world or with certain social groups it might add some flavor.

[Daystar]

Originally Posted by WannaLearnEnglish

Robbers from Freedom Islands are not supposed to speak Oxford English, are they?

Robber: "Cheerio Chaps, we're off to pilfer Darion in our Jolly Old Skyship. Chocks away!"
Bill Gilbert: "...wtf?"