Congratulations Jaguar!!!

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by scottnmegs

I appreciate any car that is done right, however I would love to see a car such as 2500hp Mustang registered?? Definately not here in Australia, I would be waiting with defect book in hand! wink..wink..

A lovely car nonetheless, this is a real drivers car Datsun 1600/510, I am currently doing one up from a rusty old wreck, 100k on tools?? I can manage on about 3k? Biggest wallet, if I had a unlimited budget I would just go buy new Nissan GTR and just drive it, not talk about how good I am when I drive it.

Any car is good, just drive it!

Sweet! That looks so much like the old Fiat 128! They're used a lot for racing here in Europe, although they're starting to become collectables too.

Uh and I second your thoughts

[scottnmegs]

Originally Posted by swiss

Decent quality has it's price, those trollies alone are ~$1000 a piece.
It's also a matter of what exactly you want to do, for changing oil and tires 3k should easily do...

(If I were Bliss I'd keep the shop a tad cleaner and tidier tho, lol)

I agree, decent quality has its price, if you class welding, engine rebuilding, structural modification, cutting rust out and basically building car from ground up as oil and tyre changing. Ok I probably used some bits from work, sandblaster etc.

I am a qualified marine mechanic and fitter and turner/welder.100k on tools is crazy!

If Bliss owns a shop I can appreciate the need for tools and quality, tools dont make the tradesman though! Bliss this is by no means a go at you, If I had access to all that I would be in heaven! Some more pics of what 3k (give or take) of tools and know how can achieve!

That was not my datto earlier, this is mine here in these pics, got a long way to go yet.

[Sternjaeger II]

you can tell a pro from how tidy his garage is. Well done there man

What's the engine config on that?

[scottnmegs]

Thats only a L18 standard motor there from later model datsun, I will be building one up with a L18 with twin su's and mainly head work. Not too worried about outright power, its the suspension, seam welding the whole body etc and brakes that will get most of love. 800kg go cart!

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

oh isn't it? And what is it then? An exotic car? A supercar? It's just a piece of expensive muscle car, and that's how it's treated by owners like the gentleman of a few pages before. Automotive stupidity. Further evidence of that is that Jeremy Clarkson bought it (and had endless problems with it until he decided to sell it).

OK baby Enzo, what's the difference that makes a Ford GT a muscle car and a Ferrari 360 (or any other Ferrari) an "engineering marvel".

As far as reliability goes, you're just completely clueless if you think Ferraris are anything but junk (in that respect). Even thinking about stating otherwise is just the definition of ignorance. The 458 was recalled because they caught on fire all the time, the 355 MELTS exhaust manifolds, the sodium filled 308 exhaust valves crack, and the list just goes on and on.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

LOL all that palava and then you're gonna get yourself a Ferrari?! Brilliant

That's the best you can do?

Next to you raaaid is a mental giant.

--Outlaw.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by scottnmegs

Thats only a L18 standard motor there from later model datsun, I will be building one up with a L18 with twin su's and mainly head work. Not too worried about outright power, its the suspension, seam welding the whole body etc and brakes that will get most of love. 800kg go cart!

looks like a sweet little project you got there

You putting a roll cage in as well?

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

you can tell a pro from how tidy his garage is. Well done there man

What's the engine config on that?

You're completely out of intelligent things to say so now it's down to, "your garage is dirty so you suck"?

What a joke.

--Outlaw.

[Sternjaeger II]

[QUOTE=Outlaw;438148]OK baby Enzo, what's the difference that makes a Ford GT a muscle car and a Ferrari 360 (or any other Ferrari) an "engineering marvel". [quote]

Do you have a faint idea of the engineering and research that goes into the design and engineering of a Ferrari? Not to mention the know-how and experience developed in F1?! I mean, SERIOUSLY?!

The original Ford GT was a sports car, the new one is just an expensive muscle car, and many believe (and treat them) as such, and again, ask Jeremy Clarkson if his had any problems at all...

As far as reliability goes, you're just completely clueless if you think Ferraris are anything but junk (in that respect). Even thinking about stating otherwise is just the definition of ignorance. The 458 was recalled because they caught on fire all the time, the 355 MELTS exhaust manifolds, the sodium filled 308 exhaust valves crack, and the list just goes on and on.

It's all down to how you drive your car. Nothing's perfect, and considering how these cars are pushed to the limit it's easy that something can break. A supercar is not a kryptonite car, if anything it is more prone to stress and damage because of its very sporty nature.

That's the best you can do?

Next to you raaaid is a mental giant.

--Outlaw.

..you still haven't explained why you diss Fezzas so much but still wanna get yourself one.. I'm all ears..

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

lol Bliss, you're doing exactly what I was talking about, you're measuring your driving skills on how long your list of tools is or how fast your car goes (allegedly...).

No as usual you can't read very well. My driving skill and knowledge just like most things in life come from experience. I've been in some sort of motorsport racing for the majority of my life. Just a guess, but I probably know how to drive a car properly, and one could probably even assume I know how to push one to the limit.

That still doesn't make you a better driver than me.

There's no question I'm a better driver than you.

And to be honest I'm not in for a race with you man, my point was that your sort of addiction (as you defined it yourself) is just a translation of your small penis syndrome into having something that goes faster than people that can afford better cars than yours.

Once again proving that you don't know anything about cars. Small penis syndrome is the guy that spends all his money to get something ridiculous. People that build their own cars are gear heads. Again, you wouldn't understand as you don't know the 1st thing about cars.

Some words about my experience: I don't have an alleged racing pedigree as you do, but my family has always been one of petrolheads. We regularly had Porsches, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, BMW and Mercs in our garages, plus the odd British Morgan or Mini, and we all liked doing bit of tinkering with them. My uncle worked for Snap-On and that meant we always had a lot of quality tools around, nothing too fancy (I think the biggest piece of technology we had was a lathe!), but enough to do our own maintenance/experimenting etc...

Can't wait to see the pics - lol

I did some racing in my younger years, but it was amateur stuff really, done for the fun of it on mono-brand championship (where you measure the driver's skill, so the winner is not the team with more money, but the one with the good driver, all in all it's a sport), and boy did it teach me a lot!

If you knew anything about racing at all, that's how most classes are setup. Everyone has the same rules. It never boils down to money. It's always about skill. This reigns true for drag and going round and round.

At the moment I'm driving an Alfa Romeo Brera (had another one and swapped it for a 3.2 V6)

I'm sorry.

It's 320hp (stock setup is 265), AWD and a pure joy to drive (and looks fantastic!). Then (and that hopefully shows that I am a real all rounder)

Boy, it sure does. You seem like you really know what it's a about - rolfmao

I'm about to acquire a '68 Mustang with a stock V8, because I can also appreciate American classic cars for their beauty.

I bet.

If I want to race I just go see a couple of friends of mine down at a place called Silverstone (I'm sure you might have heard of it..) where I can try the latest performance cars that they have available at their club and thrash mine around (talking of which, I just bought and installed a new set of brakes, pads and hoses for it, EBC Red Stuff is amazing! But I'm sure you'll tell me you probably forge your own discs right?).

Boy that sounds like fun. Not.

So I think of myself as an all rounder, that can sit on a performance car or factory spec saloon and know how to drive it properly. Learning about stuff like the quirks of slip-diff or performance driving (the aforementioned heel-and-toe which you probably never used..)

Well I'm glad you think you know how to drive. I honestly believe you're complete moron. I could probably lap you in a car with 1/2 the power of your own. Any gear head will know just by the way you type that you don't have the 1st clue about what you're talking about.

is what makes a good driver; wobbling your steering wheel left and right trying to keep straight a car that was not designed to put down all that power ("the thrill of being killed", seriously??) is just stupid and irresponsible, because I'm sure you do your fair share of racing mainly on roads..

That's called drag racing. I do the majority of racing at the track. Any sort of racing on the street is over in a few seconds.

So the crass, puerile, irresponsible driving of your kind is something I will never understand.

Of course you won't. Again, you'd have to be gear head to understand.

You drive a fugly piece of trailer park junk with a ridiculous bonnet and feel like the new Andretti,

Once again proving that you are an imbecile. The Ford mustang is the number 1 tuner call in the world. It has been for 30 years. Not a single car on the planet has more of an aftermarket or following. The cowl hood is needed for the engine.

and you know what, good for you, we normally laugh at your delusional kind, but don't come around trying to teach me what makes a good driver, cos you certainly ain't one, especially cos you don't seem to understand that

No certainly not. I'm sure your 100hp alfa shit box has taught you how to hop into an F1 car with ease. You sir, are an beyond stupid. You probably don't own a car. By your pure ignorance, I'd take a wild stab and imagine you and your family live in a caravan. The trailer park reference you made probably comes from your own experience.

1) it's not all about going on a straight line.

When I'm drag racing it is.

2) it's not about winning, it's about having fun. You sound like the Charlie Sheen of automotive delusion.

It's about winning. The fun part comes naturally. People don't race to lose especially when the purse is money.

[nearmiss]

I bought a vandenplas the year prior to Ford buying Jaguar. The car was a money pit.

The motor kept burning up. I replaced 3 motors at over 9,000 USD before I found a man that explained the problem.

I took it to a guy that had about 40 years experience with Jaguar. He took me into a back room about 12 x 12 feet square. In the room were six cylinder Jaguar crankshafts standing on end. There were so many of them they filled the room.

He said, "The rear main cap was cast iron and held so much heat the motor had to burn up". He said, "Put a small block chevrolet engine in the car and get on with my life". I told him I bought a Jaguar and I wouldn't change that. He advised I should then repair by align bore crank and replace bearings. Then I should drive as little as possible and give it a selling.

I paid 5,800 USD for align bore and rebuild. I traded to a dealership that got the bargain of a lifetime. LOL

The worst part of this... the guy told me Jaguar knew about the rear main problem all the time. He said they had used the same motor since WW2 and it was common knowledge among Jaguar enthusiasts.

To this day... I'll never own another Jaguar. If I were given one today by a well meaning friend I would sell it immediately.

I can't say enough bad things about Jaguar. I spent over $40,000 repairing that expensive piece of junk in 4 years I owned it. I wouldn't have any idea of what I would be saying if I had bought it used.

British pride took a beating with that dog that wouldn't hunt ... IMO.

It was the most beautiful car imaginable with the wire wheels and all. Sure was pretty sitting in my drive waiting for the tow truck to come pick it up about every 2 weeks.

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I should also add:

I wouldn't trust any magazine or quality pronouncements about any car company, especially Jaguar.

The proof of quality can only be determined over time with a car.

I certainly wouldn't trust anything about Jaguar on a short term basis.

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Pssst... I woudn't have a Porshe either, since all they are now just plastic cars.

Anything newer than 87 is just trouble... the Boxster is a prime example.