Its almost free now..

[JG52Uther]

'Just Flight' is more geared toward civilian sims (MS FS etc) and sell some high end sim stuff for cessna's, airliners etc. A combat flight sim is going to make up a tiny percentage of their business, and I doubt they have sold many, so are not that bothered with it.

[Ataros]

Have a look at Origin's Battlefield 3 PC support forums (maybe have to be registered with Origin - it is like a new Steam competitor). This multi-zillion $$$ launch is a complete disaster compared to CloD in terms of performance, crashes (10-20 minutes), user-friendliness, software and even hardware compatibility issues.

This is how PC gaming works nowadays. The next best flightsim after Il-2 will come out on consoles or gamepads in 2021

[Scarecrow]

I've bought every IL2 product since FB all at full price on day of release, I never do this with any other game. If they never got the core functionality up to par i'd be dissapointed in the death of something I love but since there is already a sequel planned I figure we'll get there eventually. I don't care about the money I paid for the CE, just the future of the genre. I don't torture myself anymore by playing the current version i'll wait till the Devs are done.

[jcenzano]

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Well, some folks don't seem to understand the difference between optimism and optimization...I don't believe that you are one of them....

There seems to me...to be...less optimism.
While seven months later? No optimization.
In the last couple of months?
Take a look/search in regard to the numbers of folks who have "left" the forum.

As a non native english speaker I think your comment is way out of line and very arrogant. i think Tvrdi made his point quite clear and there was no reason for the smart ass language barrier joke.

I wonder in how many languages can you make yourself understood as well as he can in english. My personal guess is: NONE.

@Tvrdi: Normally I think your oppinions are quite aggressive/radical, but lately I am beginning to agree more and more with you.

Even at the prices advertised its still way to expensive, for a game that still as massive issues it should now be a give away product.

[SYN_Jed]

Ask yourself this and answer honestly. Knowing what you know now, if 1C released CloD2 next month would you pay £60 for it...or maybe...just maybe would you wait a few months til it was £8.49.

Before this release I`d have said "definitely on day 1"

Now I`m not so sure...

(Sadly you notice I didnt say I wouldnt )

[flyingblind]

Hey - just think. If only you had held off buying IL2-Sturmovic all those years ago just think what you would get for a few quid now. One disc with the whole series plus a ton of mods and stuff to download and it all works! You could have saved yourself hours, no, years of irritation and frustration and updating your computer and operating sytems to get it all working smoooth and perfect - not to mention the wasted wad of cash.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Have a look at Origin's Battlefield 3 PC support forums (maybe have to be registered with Origin - it is like a new Steam competitor). This multi-zillion $$$ launch is a complete disaster compared to CloD in terms of performance, crashes (10-20 minutes), user-friendliness, software and even hardware compatibility issues.

This is not my experience with BF3 which works very well and stable on my system and some 15 clan members I play with every evening since launch.
There were no complaints about performance or stability. The only crashes I had occurred while launching the game. Never a CTD/Blue Screen while playing.

[KG26_Alpha]

In 2001 IL2 Sturmovik was retailing £29.99.

That's 10 years ago when MS CFS 2/3 series and FS 2000 and FS 2002 was retailing at around £60.00

What ever the condition of the CoD software on release it was cheap, and for those that remember the farcical MS FS series releases back then they relied on 3rd party programmers to fix the bugs and there were hardly never any official patches to fix anything.

Quit yer moaning and let 1C team sort out CoD

I'm sure their past history with the IL2 series will be evident in the CoD series.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

What if they fail in optimising this sim? Its theoretically possible...

If they fail in optimising this sim, I'll fly it as it is. Performance is acceptable on my pc, which is by no means top end.

The things I'm hoping for most are that the track editor function gets sorted and the AI gets less boisterous. The online aspect is getting really good now, and I'm not too bothered about SP campaigns/missions, dynamic or not.

This is in spite of what I may have done in the past (See screenshot.That's not really me by the way, I'm much better looking ).