Its almost free now..

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I pre-ordered and purchased two collector's editions (one was for a gift), a Logitech G940 and subsequently a GTX570, solely because this was Cliffs of Dover by the IL2 team; and wouldn't have bought the latter two unless I thought it was worth it.

I've done some whining and moaning myself since release, but as an old fan of the series, I don't regret spending a single penny if what I paid for the two CE's helps assist development.

As it happens, I was given a copy of IL2 in 2001, then bought Forgotten Battles and 1946 but only when they went down to less than £10.00.

Bringing the price down to the level of 'bargain' will mean it'll be sitting on a lot more people's hard discs whilst we wait for further software improvements and hardware development. Long term, surely this can only be a good thing for the promotion of the genre, as it was in my case.

I've no doubt that I'll be first in the queue for any expansions/sequels too. I'll probably kick myself for paying full price on release, have another whine/moan and then do it again.

So, I went from bargain hunter to pre-orderer, why not others?

What if they fail in optimising this sim? Its theoretically possible...

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

What if they fail in optimising this sim? Its theoretically possible...

Well, some folks don't seem to understand the difference between optimism and optimization...I don't believe that you are one of them....

There seems to me...to be...less optimism.
While seven months later? No optimization.
In the last couple of months?
Take a look/search in regard to the numbers of folks who have "left" the forum.

[Qpassa]

I bought two weeks ago CE for 20 euros(19.95)

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Well, some folks don't seem to understand the difference between optimism and optimization...I don't believe that you are one of them....

There seems to me...to be...less optimism.
While seven months later? No optimization.
In the last couple of months?
Take a look/search in regard to the numbers of folks who have "left" the forum.

Dont be a smart ars, english is not my native language. Yep it should be optimization not optimisation. BTw it was just a typo. They did something to make the game smooth. Is it enough. No. Will they further improve this sim (performance wise)? - I hope yes.

[Matt255]

It's not a typo at all.
optimisation is BE, optimization AE

I don't think that's what Pudfark meant though.

Anyhow, i bought CloD for 27 € right at its release. It's not like you were forced to buy it for ~60 € or something.

So it's like half as expensive as it was seven months ago. That's not that special imo.

Only the devs know if they'll keep supporting it.

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Most people came on here to complain/fix problems. Their problems are fixed and they don't need to come back.

True, or we are patiently waiting for the next patch (AI and Radio fixes!!!)

I picked up a 2nd copy from Just Flight (great sale price) as I expect the fps optimisations and SP fixes to be in the next patch.

Originally Posted by luthier

Our main priorities now are:

1. Physics and FM. This means plane behavior in the air, brand new landing gear model on the ground, collision modeling including tree collision (if performance allows), and improved vehicle physics.
2. AI. Currently working on everyone’s favorite controls flutter and AI wingman behavior. Also working on improving radio comms, getting your crew to be more verbose on the intercom, and lots of other changes. Coupled with #1, this should give us quite a dramatic change in how air combat looks and feels.
3. Performance. We are in final stages of testing a thorough overhaul of the game’s graphic engine. It won’t look any different but it will be much more streamlined. It’s too early to say what the FPS increase will be in the final version, but it shouldn’t be less than 50%.
4. Sound. The sound in the v15950 is considered a beta. We will continue to improve existing sound, and to add new ones to the aircraft and to the world around them.
5. SDK. As promised earlier, still planning to release a map-making SDK in the near future. More details will be released when we are ready for them.

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Well, some folks don't seem to understand the difference between optimism and optimization...I don't believe that you are one of them....

There seems to me...to be...less optimism.
While seven months later? No optimization.
In the last couple of months?
Take a look/search in regard to the numbers of folks who have "left" the forum.

@Tvrdi, I was not trying to make fun of you or poking fun at you...I meant word for word, what I said. It was a compliment to you.

@cheesehawk, You may get exactly what you ask for..."That certainly points to the improved nature of the sim. Most people came on here to complain/fix problems. Their problems are fixed and they don't need to come back".

[Bakelit]

Actually for all the fans, I would not be worried about the critics and pessimists still posting here.

You really should be worried about the people who don't come here anymore and about those who did not buy in the first place after seeing CoD at their friends pc's. I'm the only one of four mates owning Il2 who bought CoD.

I'm cool about anyone getting their enjoyment of CoD. But everytime I start a mission from the strange UI and see the AI "perform" I want to throw up. So I instantly stop playing and wait for the next patch. For seven months now.

To me this is the biggest disappointment I ever had from a pc game. Won't ever buy any extension for this mess. I mean they aren't newcomers with their first ever flight sim produced, are they?

[jcenzano]

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Well, some folks don't seem to understand the difference between optimism and optimization...I don't believe that you are one of them....

There seems to me...to be...less optimism.
While seven months later? No optimization.
In the last couple of months?
Take a look/search in regard to the numbers of folks who have "left" the forum.

As a non native english speaker I think your comment is way out of line and very arrogant. i think Tvrdi made his point quite clear and there was no reason for the smart ass language barrier joke.

I wonder in how many languages can you make yourself understood as well as he can in english. My personal guess is: NONE.

@Tvrdi: Normally I think your oppinions are quite aggressive/radical, but lately I am beginning to agree more and more with you.

Even at the prices advertised its still way to expensive, for a game that still as massive issues it should now be a give away product.