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Originally Posted by jcenzano

@Tvrdi: Normally I think your oppinions are quite aggressive/radical, but lately I am beginning to agree more and more with you.

Im not radical in eye to eye conversation ....here on forums it seams so (more or less) because of the language barrier....so I hope I didnt insult anyone....except Ace of Aces. This guy I could insult every single day.

The bottom line is that all the "whining" is because Im the big fun of ("hardcore") sims including il2 series....and ofcourse Im frustrated by CLOD performance on my modern rig (yep, I did all the things one can do to optimise his system).....thats the "whole secret"....After the last (beta!) patch CLOD is much smoother on my rig but nowhere as it should be (when the dust is near, or when the dogfight is low it gets very slow)....

[namroob]

I'm not a business expert and I could be wrong but it seems to me to be quite possibly hard to make a loss with many PC games these days. With on-line downloads, distribution costs of the product are virtually nil per unit aren't they (no packaging or paper manuals etc)?

Again, on-line updates mean it's infinitely easier and cheaper to maintain/update it. This also means it is quite practical from their point of view to release it "unfinished" (whatever you think of the ethics of that).

Finally, PC ownership and use is going up exponentially as the developing world becomes computerised; even if only a fraction of 1% of total PC users in the world are flight sim fans that still represents an expanding potential market of tens of thousands. Perhaps the reasoning is to sell it for a few quid and maybe thousands more will come on board.

Discuss...

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

In 2001 IL2 Sturmovik was retailing £29.99.

That's 10 years ago when MS CFS 2/3 series and FS 2000 and FS 2002 was retailing at around £60.00

What ever the condition of the CoD software on release it was cheap, and for those that remember the farcical MS FS series releases back then they relied on 3rd party programmers to fix the bugs and there were hardly never any official patches to fix anything.

Quit yer moaning and let 1C team sort out CoD

I'm sure their past history with the IL2 series will be evident in the CoD series.

Yep quit the moaning guys its only been 8 months since release.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Well..all the moaning and bitching will not update CoD to anything no matter how loud and obnoxious we would be. Luthier and his team have improved the game over the months, there is no denying that. And I hope this same path will continue along with sequels/add-ons/whatever.

I was for sure a dissapointed customer when paid full price of something that clearly was not ready for publishing. But I could have wasted the money on something else that could have been totally useless. So no big deal. I enjoy now what the game has to offer and most of it is Multiplayer. It works for me except the few launcher.exe crashes now and then, but now I have taken note on symptoms preceeding it so I restart the game

Also have to say that meeting different people over TS is fun, thanks JG52 Krupi and others for the fun times last night raiding England's shipping Just enjoy and relax, CoD will mature and meanwhile we can STILL play it..

End of overpositive ramble, but I think we all need sometimes to loosen the tie or something

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!
Well..all the moaning and bitching will not update CoD to anything no matter how loud and obnoxious we would be.

one of the "whines" revealed (to the public) the issue with SSAO....after that the problem was partialy corrected and the SSAO was included in video options. And this is just one example.

[Flanker35M]

S!

I know Tvrdi, but what I meant was that we can sling mud all we want and CoD will not gt finished/patched/changed any faster But got your point

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

I know Tvrdi, but what I meant was that we can sling mud all we want and CoD will not gt finished/patched/changed any faster But got your point

I agree.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by tintifaxl

This is not my experience with BF3 which works very well and stable on my system and some 15 clan members I play with every evening since launch.
There were no complaints about performance or stability. The only crashes I had occurred while launching the game. Never a CTD/Blue Screen while playing.

Plus one..

Haven't had one issue with BF :/. Didnt even know there were any major issues with it?

[AKA_Tenn]

alot of games are really cheap now cause u make more money selling 5 copies for 10$ each than you do selling 1 copy for 30$... when the cost of the game is in development, not in the actual copies of the game, that makes sense, since its easier to sell something for 10$ than 30$....

[Chivas]

I don't regret the monies I spent on the initial release of this sim. I consider it an investment in our genre. If the new IL-2 series fails I don't see any other developers now or in the near future doing the kind of sims the majority here are looking for. The ROF developers could eventually make a WW2 sim, but I don't see that happening for atleast another five years. I thought Gaijin made a good start, that could have been upgraded to a decent combat flight sim but they dropped the ball.