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[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

The auto pitch is too lazy. Don't be surprised you couldn't outrun a manually flown Rotol Hurri.
If you fly the 109 on manual, the Hurri can't get anywhere near you.

Don't blame the game for that. It was all you.

My God, another unknown genius. Did you test that, or it's just your general impression? And how that relates with the historical data? I'm eager to learn from you.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Insuber

My God, another unknown genius. Did you test that, or it's just your general impression? And how that relates with the historical data? I'm eager to learn from you.

Come on insuber there is nothing historical about this it just doesnt work well atm that's a simple fact, the auto prop we have in the e4 is terrible i was doing circles around a guy that had it enabled... he just couldn't keep up with me and since there was no button set he couldn't turn it off until he landed.

I have been using the auto prop since it arrived but until it's fixed I'm back to using manual there is something wrong with it if I can go 50kmh faster without even trying... If I did try I would be around 100kmh faster than someone using the auto prop wtf!!!

@madfish clearly this game is too hard for you so go buy hawx2 that seems like the perfect game for you.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Come on insuber there is nothing historical about this it just doesnt work well atm that's a simple fact, the auto prop we have in the e4 is terrible i was doing circles around a guy that had it enabled... he just couldn't keep up with me and since there was no button set he couldn't turn it off until he landed.

I have been using the auto prop since it arrived but until it's fixed I'm back to using manual there is something wrong with it if I can go 50kmh faster without even trying... If I did try I would be around 100kmh faster than someone using the auto prop wtf!!!

@madfish clearly this game is too hard for you so go buy hawx2 that seems like the perfect game for you.

Thx Krupi, it was exactly my point, I just reacted to someone who said that we shouldn't blame the game, but "ourselves" ... LOL!
It's like saying that in 1940 the auto prop pitch was adopted by the silly German engineers to slow down the 109 and match the Hurri performances ...

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Thx Krupi, it was exactly my point, I just reacted to someone who said that we shouldn't blame the game, but "ourselves" ... LOL!
It's like saying that in 1940 the auto prop pitch was adopted by the silly German engineers to slow down the 109 and match the Hurri performances ...

one of the main reasons it was adopted was to ease pilot workload.

i'm sure that somewhere i read an account of a 109 pilot saying that the auto pitch wasn't as good as manual in terms of absolute performance with a good pilot used to manual, i just can't remember where i read it, poss 'Spitfire on my tail'

but how much worse, who knows.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

one of the main reasons it was adopted was to ease pilot workload.

i'm sure that somewhere i read an account of a 109 pilot saying that the auto pitch wasn't as good as manual in terms of absolute performance with a good pilot used to manual, i just can't remember where i read it, poss 'Spitfire on my tail'

but how much worse, who knows.

Fruitbat, my friend! I'm very interested in this kind of accounts. The only drawback is that they are subjective and qualitative. But that's the nature of WWII aviation discussions, and maybe the reason why we love them so much!

The main point however is that the FMs are flawed (ceiling, top speed, no Vne and G stress, no G stall ... God knows what else), pretty much in accordance with the unfinished nature of the game.

Btw, Luthier said 6 months ago that he was dreaming the day we will stop complaining about graphics and bugs, and start complaining about FM and DM ... maybe we aren't there yet, but almost ...

[MD_Titus]

...when they type try that in *insert inferior plane*

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Come on insuber there is nothing historical about this it just doesnt work well atm that's a simple fact, the auto prop we have in the e4 is terrible i was doing circles around a guy that had it enabled... he just couldn't keep up with me and since there was no button set he couldn't turn it off until he landed.

I have been using the auto prop since it arrived but until it's fixed I'm back to using manual there is something wrong with it if I can go 50kmh faster without even trying... If I did try I would be around 100kmh faster than someone using the auto prop wtf!!!

@madfish clearly this game is too hard for you so go buy hawx2 that seems like the perfect game for you.

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

[MoGas]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.

Because the autoprop is not working! In many cases you are stuck at 2000RPM or lower in a climb, and finally in the level flyt too, and if you use "notleistung" it is given you even lower RPM, and not rising it for the proper RPM what would be needed now.

As Krupi said, if youre wingy dosent have the manual switch key on his joystick or keyboard, you fly away from him, simple.

I had many situation, where I followed E4 flyers with a E1, where I had to ask "what is going on with youre speed" and the answer was "FULL THROTTLE" lol.

[David198502]

Originally Posted by MoGas

Because the autoprop is not working! In many cases you are stuck at 2000RPM or lower in a climb, and finally in the level flyt too, and if you use "notleistung" it is given you even lower RPM, and not rising it for the proper RPM what would be needed now.

As Krupi said, if youre wingy dosent have the manual switch key on his joystick or keyboard, you fly away from him, simple.

I had many situation, where I followed E4 flyers with a E1, where I had to ask "what is going on with youre speed" and the answer was "FULL THROTTLE" lol.

+1...
use manual prop pitch properly, and you leave every 109 which is using auto prop behind you...poor guys who are not aware of that
i prefer the E4 because of its Minengeschoss, but always fly with manual prop pitch in every situation.flying with the E1 before we got the E4 got me used to it anyway.
auto prop is definitely bugged

[ZaltysZ]

Auto works fine for me. However, I always take off on manual, and engage auto only at max throttle and max permissible RPM. If I engage it earlier, it simply sticks later.