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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes I have and dont like using Steam 67 14.26%
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:10 PM
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How can you agree with a direct contradiction? You can't both require Steam for online play AND have it be optional at the exact same time! The "Steam built-in multi-player browser" is what Steamworks is. It is the MP service that is causing all the contention of it's inclusion. You literally can't have it for MP while simultaneously not having it for MP.



We don't know for sure that both the DD version and the box version will use the TAGES DRM. I can't weight in on the BC issue as I didn't get a box copy. I just know that I had to make a Punk Buster account, and that xxxx is whack since it seems for many people (myself included) it occasionally decides my valid copy isn't.
I was under the impression that the Steam lobby is just a 3rd party server browser that lists available servers, much like Hypperlobby or Xfire is. Oleg Maddox also said himself that it will be possible to use external server browsers. Finally, there is another precedent/example: it works exactly this way with ArmA2 (both steam and non-steam versions can play on the same server) that's why i believe it can be optional. Since someone has already done it, i don't see why including Steam in the equation suddenly makes the multiplayer functions exclusive to Steam.

Steam version: log-in to steam, open the in-game lobby, choose server, join
non-steam version: run 3rd party server browser, select server, click join, game launches and connects

As for the DRM, the info from Ubi is just like it is for Steam, ie mandatory and vague with no mention of version: "the game will use Solidshield DRM and require a steam account". It's on the official Ubi page for the game, so unless we hear otherwise you're pretty much as screwed as the non-steamers are

Last edited by KG26_Alpha; 03-19-2011 at 10:46 AM.
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