Damage model is rubbish!

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

Yup. When I was 12 I played Microprose's (what an awesome company, I miss them!) Gunship on Commodore C64. I was amazed by the level of detail and invested a lot of time into learning how to do an autorotation landing and understanding the different weapon systems of my helicopter and the opposing enemy forces.

Maybe this is different today. Or wait, actually it's not. The reason why console players are playing dumb games is that they hardly get anything else.

IL-2 tries at least to go into a different direction and if the success proves that they were right we may see a sequel that will hopefully include also a more complex damage model like in the original PC game.

Give the publishers a bit of time to see that their decision to go down the sim route was right

I remember Gunship on my Amiga 500! For me though the start was flight simulator 1 or 2 on the Apple IIe when I was like 8.... I remember being instantly hooked just sitting on the runway trying to figure out how to take off. Anyway, I was amazed by like you said "the level of detail". Most kids are not stupid and like a realistic game/sim that immerses them.

[sod16]

Originally Posted by butterfield

I remember Gunship on my Amiga 500! For me though the start was flight simulator 1 or 2 on the Apple IIe when I was like 8.... I remember being instantly hooked just sitting on the runway trying to figure out how to take off. Anyway, I was amazed by like you said "the level of detail". Most kids are not stupid and like a realistic game/sim that immerses them.

Publishers are to stupid to know that everyone likes a bit of realistic, they think it wont sell, they are taking the wii approach.

[IamKFAM]

ummmm all the way to the bank. Publishers publish what sells. Instead of telling them they are dumb for selling things. Work on your fellow gamers.
It will work better.

To put it another way:

If everyone is buying turd sammiches...

Soon everyone will be selling turd sammiches.

Tell everyone to stop buying it. Make mine a Ham and Swiss with amazingly detailed holes coded in.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by IamKFAM

ummmm all the way to the bank. Publishers publish what sells. Instead of telling them they are dumb for selling things. Work on your fellow gamers.
It will work better.

Exactly.
I guess, if BoP won't succeed there won't be any console realisitc flight sim game in next decade.

EDIT: Hadn't meant it to sound like a blackmail Just my own thoughts. Of course, don't buy the game if you don't like it.

[IamKFAM]

I'm gonna give 'em as gifts... tryin to do my part....

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Exactly.
I guess, if BoP won't succeed there won't be any console realisitc flight sim game in next decade.

EDIT: Hadn't meant it to sound like a blackmail Just my own thoughts. Of course, don't buy the game if you don't like it.

OK, if Anton won't blackmail you then I do it! Buy the game or I will shoot this dog:

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by h lecter

ok, if anton won't blackmail you then i do it! Buy the game or i will shoot this dog:

shoot it its ugly

[David603]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Exactly.
I guess, if BoP won't succeed there won't be any console realisitc flight sim game in next decade.

EDIT: Hadn't meant it to sound like a blackmail Just my own thoughts. Of course, don't buy the game if you don't like it.

You have a good point there. Birds of Prey is the first time that I can think of where someone has attempted to bring a PC flight sim series to consoles, so if the sales are dissapointing then there would be no reason for either 1C or anyone else to try again.

Hopefully if Birds of Prey sells well then we will see not just sequels but also other PC flight sims making the jump to consoles.

[PulpzillA]

anton has the damage model been dumbed down or not compared to the pc version?
a simple answer would stop all this bickering.

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by PulpzillA

anton has the damage model been dumbed down or not compared to the pc version?
a simple answer would stop all this bickering.

He already stated yes. He didn't use the term dumbed down though.

I think folks.. like myself ..are just venting their frustrations because certain damage and crash landings were removed and wish it was there like the PC ver.