Take off problems

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Blackadder

The same thing happens every time. I take off with flaps down, I then retract the landing gear and hold steady as I start to climb. Then at about 1000 feet (maybe less) my RPM cuts out and I crash into the ground.

I have complex engine management off so I imagine that means that the game is taking care of all the engine cooling and prop pitch settings. The fact that I never run into any engine trouble when starting from the air suggests as well that that is the case.


Any idea why my engine dies like that every time I take off?

With CEM off, the airscrew or propeller automatically goes to coarse pitch almost immediately after take-off. This is why your rpm reduces significantly. There is no need to worry about the drop in rpm. But, that doesn't explain why you're falling out of the sky. Flap is not needed for take-off by the way, although it helps get off the ground with the terrible acceleration of the DH5-20 props. However, your airspeed will be lower with flaps down, so if you're pulling back on the stick and raising flaps without enough airspeed, you're stalling through lack of lift. One of the easiest mistakes to make is to simply pull back on the stick expecting to climb, without anywhere near enough airspeed. Take off with no flaps, and as soon as your wheels are up, level off and allow your airspeed to increase to 140mph. As your airspeed increases, you will start to climb quite naturally, with no need to pull on the stick. Pulling on the stick is a bad thing to do when climbing. Your forward speed will eventually generate enough lift in order to climb, as long as you give it time. These early WWII aircraft aren't rocket boosted jet propelled missiles, although sometimes, when up against E4/Ns, I wish they were. .

[Osprey]

Wise words Dutch. Blackadder, drop into our Teamspeak one evening and we'll have you battering Jerry in no time.

www.aircombatgroup.co.uk

[Blackadder]

It was the stall issue after all. I took up but stayed above the rooftops until I got to about 200mph and I started to climb with no problem. I think it was because I had previously played battle of britain 2 WoV with the 150% engine power option ticked. I expected more of the Hurricane than she could really give, lol.


When I am any good I will look to join the ATAG multiplayer. I love watching the server videos on youtube but at the moment I am too rubbish, I want to at least do the redux campaign first.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Originally Posted by Blackadder

It was the stall issue after all. I took up but stayed above the rooftops until I got to about 200mph and I started to climb with no problem. I think it was because I had previously played battle of britain 2 WoV with the 150% engine power option ticked. I expected more of the Hurricane than she could really give, lol.


When I am any good I will look to join the ATAG multiplayer. I love watching the server videos on youtube but at the moment I am too rubbish, I want to at least do the redux campaign first.

Glad you nailed you're take off issue 'Blackie',thought it had to be this,this issue used to plague my take offs,much to my embarrassment,lol,until I realised where I was going wrong,and this is what prompted me to answer your thread.

I was lucky though my flying skills were polished up by joining a virtual Squadron at www.aircombatgroup.co.uk.

If you want to do likewise,as Osprey has informed you,just drop into our comms on Teamspeak one evening and have a chat with us,or pop into our forum,introduce yourself and we'll help you out the matey,don't be shy,the accent is on having fun

Your skills will enhance a lot quicker flying with a group such as ours than to try and do it all on your own,trust me.

I fly with 501 Squadron,as does Osprey who also commented on here,and we'd be more than happy for you to join our party,at ACG we have our very own server just like ATAG where you're get to fly in online Campaigns and nightly sorties.

Get yourself involved mate you'll love it

[Blackadder]

Cheers mate, I will get myself a microphone and join the forum.

How many times a week do you fly missions?

I take it you fly with full CEM on the servers? (I have never attempted this in either CoD or Bob2)


I notice you have a warthog, I have recently set mine up and am trying out Bayne's settings. Do you use Bayne's or have your own one?

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Fly when your own time allows you to basically mate,you'll always find some guys on during the evenings,normally 19.00hrs GMT onwards,and at weekends it gets much more busier obviously.

Flying with CEM is a must,as it is with most of the serious flying servers,so it's best you get started with that asap IMO.It might be a bit difficult to start with,but I can assure you,you'll soon get the hang of it,and it's very rewarding when you finally master it.

I use my own settings on the Warthog always have done,you'll find it easier to remember the controls if you do this to be honest

[Blackadder]

I tried out the complex engine management this afternoon using the solo flight training mission. I was able to take off and fly about no problem, I didn't get that high but I got an understanding of how it all works.


I then went to do the redux campaign (I use the team fusion mod) and in the first mission I start warmed up on the ground. I have all the CEM settings the same as the solo flight but instead of a good take off which I can achieve in solo flight, this happens.

1) The plane crashes nose down as soon as I pick up real speed
2) Sometimes I will go nose down from stand still as soon as I apply throttle
3) Sometimes I am at full throttle and still do not move.

Strangely my attempts to take off all seem to end in one of those despite doing the same thing as the solo. I even went back to solo to test and I took off yet after about 15 attempts I did not take off in the campaign.


The campaign plane is also a hurricane but it may be a different version because in the solo flight the plane only has 2 prop pitch settings while the campaign one goes in 10% increments when I increase/decrease.

At first I though there was something blocking my wheels causing me to go nose down but there is not. Any idea why take off is so tough? The overwhelming nose down tendency caused me to destroy the blade 90% of the time, other times the plane would not move at all. All with the same amount of mixture, radiator, prop pitch, throttle, rudder, etc I used in the solo flight.

I thought it might be a team fusion thing but then my solo flight hurricane would be affected. Maybe it is that the hurricane in the campaign is different but even so it feels like a completely different plane in the campaign.