fw 190a5 flight model

[MaxGunz]

Originally Posted by Gaston

First of all it is not 13 or 14 Gs, but 6-7 Gs plus 3 "Gs" worth of bending: So 9-10 Gs of structural load at most.

Really? Or did you just pull that out of your ear? Because the people who did the actual testing got higher values without guessing at all. They tested the structures to the breaking point.

(It would explain some unexpected breakage and, interestingly enough, the failure of the P-51s guns to work properly despite likely ground wing-bending testing...

Interestingly enough the failure of different ammo feeds to have failed under turning G's was known and written into the very histories you claim to have encyclopedic knowledge of.

They never tested those guns in actual turning flight,

Never? Anywhere? Not like you can't remember or find but actually never?

and, as a result, the P-51's gun jams under G load were always triple that of the P-47: Going from 500 mrbf in early '44, to around 1000 in 1945, while the P-47 went from 1500 in early '44 to 3000 + in 1945... The improvements might have been in part due to lower late-war altitudes for both types)

That and actually changing the ammo feed on the P-51. They had to do a change in the gear doors too and a whole list of fixes.

In any case, those Gs are for the airframe's wing bending value, not Gs that the pilot actually feels, or are you just pretending?

Gaston

First of all, you should learn about human G testing and G's. It's not just the G's, it's how long you are *at* the G's.

* Go through disturbed air and your plane maybe shakes, that is momentary G force. At higher speed the shake is more. In fact there are actual reference maximum speeds for flying in such conditions because you can break the airplane especially if you also try and maneuver in such conditions, like trying a hard pullout while buffeting.

As for cantilever wings, they are made to flex a certain amount, it's part of the design. It beats breaking. But even short-term G's can overload the wings, they do not fail the same way that humans do.

Watch a pilot pull 11.2 G's in the Red Bull Air Races.