one good aspect off all this, 1c kept the CoD engine and did not transfer it to RoF

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Hopefully 1C777 will learn from the mistakes of all the companies mentioned and come up with a product worthy of the titale of being a successor to IL2.. Currently neither RoF nor CoD are it.

nope !

for the simple reason that this new project by 1c and teflon jason is not deisgned to produce the best ww2 flightsim that is possible to create, its main purpose is to make money, and be as profitable as possible for them in doing so

it has nothing to do with creating quality ww2 flightsim product for hardcore simulation freaks.

1c has already stated as much at the outset of them agreeing to fund 777's next project ("1c likes the sales model and revenue generated"), and 777 has already shown this to be the case in its own track record in their sales model and indicating it will be their old ww1 game engine reskinned with a few new ww2 planes and a new map. after that you'll pay for every single future addon object/item, and the 1c reps are already salivating at the thought of it

[Feathered_IV]

That's the problem with young people these days. They have such an overblown sense of entitlement, they expect it all to be handed to them on a plate.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

That's the problem with young people these days. They have such an overblown sense of entitlement, they expect it all to be handed to them on a plate.

like all your bitching and moaning here for the last 2 years you mean ?

just apply your equal level of expectation to what the new 777 ww2 sim is going to be, and you will see it is by its very design going to be something much much less then what we currently already have in CoD

and remember that even after CoD was patched recently and it greatly improved, you personally didnt change your swan song of whining and kept cheering on trolls like tree

oooo but i see, you'r going to set different standards now for the new 777 project and then pretend the end product is the same thing ?

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

but I can almost guarantee that if CoD had been released as basically IL2 1946.. with 2048x2048 skins with alphas (ala WoP) , a MDS a few more planes and objects and some of the features that have been done in the mods.. a few that have already been incorporated into 4.11.1 and are promised for 4.12 .. like WS support, 6DoF, axii for multi engined AC, axii for other controls in single engined AC like radiator and mix on a slider.. and some other functional feature type mods.. The thing would have sold like wild fire and they would still be in business. They could have copied the RoF model on all the planes in the sim that were not flyable and they would have been sucessful.. but the sim got hacked and that was that.. As much as I enjoy mods I can't help but wonder if this is partly chickens coming home to roost because if the sim had still been locked they could have done some od this stuff and made a profit to an extent and remained in business.. perhaps.

+1 this be very true

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by zapatista

just apply your equal level of expectation to what the new 777 ww2 sim is going to be, and you will see it is by its very design going to be something much much less then what we currently already have in CoD

I'm fine with that. I also am fine with paying a fair price for additional content.
Out of curiosity, what does your comment "Teflon Jason" mean? You've used it a few times now in a disparaging sort of way but I'm unsure of context.

[bzc3lk]

Originally Posted by zapatista

like all your bitching and moaning here for the last 2 years you mean ?

Oh, the irony!

Originally Posted by zapatista

oooo but i see, you'r going to set different standards now for the new 777 project and then pretend the end product is the same thing ?

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by zapatista

nope !

for the simple reason that this new project by 1c and teflon jason is not deisgned to produce the best ww2 flightsim that is possible to create, its main purpose is to make money, and be as profitable as possible for them in doing so

it has nothing to do with creating quality ww2 flightsim product for hardcore simulation freaks.

1c has already stated as much at the outset of them agreeing to fund 777's next project ("1c likes the sales model and revenue generated"), and 777 has already shown this to be the case in its own track record in their sales model and indicating it will be their old ww1 game engine reskinned with a few new ww2 planes and a new map. after that you'll pay for every single future addon object/item, and the 1c reps are already salivating at the thought of it

Most if not all software-companies has the focus on making money on their products. Hell, if you laid down 3+ years of work into a product that you're going to sell to others, wouldn't you want some return on your investment?

Sorry, Zappy'Ol'Chap, you're getting more and more silly in your knee-jerk responses wherever 777 is involved than what I see daily in the Apple/Android-wars.