Channel Map Comparisons

[furbs]

Originally Posted by addman

Ok, I see what you mean. I'd really like to know why the majority of the il-2 community abstained from CloD, was it lack of "traditional co-ops"? or was it just lack of content? From a pure flight-simming perspective I couldn't -I tried- go back to il-2 1946. The feel of flight was yet again re-invented with CloD, unbeatable and the cockpits alone surpassed anything from before. I guess there's no single answer to it.

No single reason, but lots of reasons, some big some small.

In some areas COD was light years ahead of everything, in others worse than IL2.

Add in the very high system requirements at release...

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by furbs

No single reason, but lots of reasons, some big some small.

In some areas COD was light years ahead of everything, in others worse than IL2.

Add in the very high system requirements at release...

Its a shame really, some of those features could have been fixed quicker than a graphic engine rewrite. If they had just fixed the bugs and left the overhaul to the next game I think our upgraded PC's would have blasted the other problems away.

[startrekmike]

Originally Posted by Meusli

Its a shame really, some of those features could have been fixed quicker than a graphic engine rewrite. If they had just fixed the bugs and left the overhaul to the next game I think our upgraded PC's would have blasted the other problems away.

I agree, some of the menu system stuff being fixed would have gone a long way, the sim itself was okay and I am sure better computers would have hashed a lot of the issues out.

The somewhat difficult to deal with menu issues would turn a lot of new players off though, which is a shame really.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Over the original one from the video - none whatsoever I'd say, but over the one we actually got I think it rectifies a few of the shortcomings, specifically trees and colour balance.

But, please note the colour balance in ROF can be varied quite a bit by choosing different options under the 'Post effects' settings. There is also a tweak for saturation buried in the Startup.cfg file in the Rise of Flight/Data folder (at standard default saturation of 0.75 it can look washed out. I have increased it to 0.815 which gives better results) just seen that some people are using saturation = 1.00. I may have to give that a go.

Then there is the new FlightFX/SweetFx that has brought improvements too.

With everything tweaked the criticisms about washed out colours don't really apply.

maybe you could post up some screenies of what you're saying there?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Landing in a farmers field (As requested) inland of dover.

If anyone sees any issues with my setting I'm all open for suggestions.

Cheers!

LOL!! You call that a landing!! Nice vid though up till the bloddy part..

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

They just torpedoed the entire online community with this map.
The map is sold as addon. Looks like not many online regulars got this new map and if it shows up in the rotation on the server, the guys that don't have it get kicked. The server instantly goes from 20-30 people to five. Now those that didn't get the map can't play, and those that got it don't have who to play with.
If you dare posting about it on ROF forums they delete the thread in a heart beat.
Good luck with this bussines model in the next game.
The map is ok, the collor of water is off. Water looks like 1946 water with better waves. The lighting engine makes it look wrong.

Hmm.. that bites.. I was hoping it would be that you couldn't run missions on that map on your PC if you didn't have the map.. but that you could fly in a mission hosted by someone.. sort of like they do with the planes.. disappointed in that..

Originally Posted by startrekmike

Were you expecting them to just give it away?
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a ROF cheerleader here but if they offered a system where those who don't own the map could play on servers that are using it, do you really think that anyone but dedicated server owners and single player fans would actually bother buying it? It would essentially mean that they did all that hard work for nothing.
I think the map is a little expensive but that is to be expected for a project of that scale.
The reason they are closing threads like that is because those threads always turn nasty and the ROF forum mods don't want to deal with a ton of anger about something that is actually perfectly logical.
Lastly, I don't think one can really compare ROF and CloD's channel maps, both are built with different goals in mind and while I will always say that CloD has a better looking map, I don't feel that it counts against ROF's map as they both do what they set out to do (though I find that ROF is consistently smoother in the FPS department and the weather effects really make it interesting).
I imagine that this thread is really just going to turn into another ROF bashing session, I suppose there is no avoiding it on this forum.
I wish we could all go back to talking about CloD and not CloD compared to everything else.

Good post.. makes sense .. but it is still a little disappointing because of my previous post.. and I bought the map..

As for the last part of your post I think till this all settles out and some kind of clear path for CoD comes out.. and we see just what will become of this 1c777 merged product the comparisons will be there.. it is unavoidable.

You shouldn't have to apologize for extolling the virtues of another sim.. here or on any other flight sim forum for that matter and that only gets dicey when the posters involved take it there.. here or elsewhere. If those threads didn't turn nasty we would have more discussion across the boards with less acrimony. At the end of the day it's all about the flying really and I can't speak for anyone else but for me this is all good because it's like seeing the planes that used to hang from my wall in a totally different light breathing and moving.. Only now I don't have to go "EEeerrrrnnnhhhhh ... dudududududuhhh krshhh .. burlllghghg..." I can see it on my screen ..

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

LOL!! You call that a landing!! Nice vid though up till the bloddy part..

LOL! Hey! I've been flying in sim since Elite on the Apple][+, Never said I was any good at any of 'em!

It's Sim pilots like me that give those guys online their 100+ kills per month! Still, I get a great sence of achievement for every mission I finish!

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

Webbed feet? No. But a few of these little beauties always help to break the ice.

Flying later? Yes please!!!

You will not lure us again

[Wolf_Rider]

awww...no screenies?

[kendo65]

Here's a few lifted from the SweetFX thread to demonstrate what some people are getting. Some of these pics may even be a little over-saturated!

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Here's a few lifted from the SweetFX thread to demonstrate what some people are getting. Some of these pics may even be a little over-saturated!

If they could fix the glaring issue of the aircraft markings looking like model kit decals that otherwise looks quite reasonable.