Oleg Maddox's Room #1

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by wjc103

In SOW, how will muzzle flash be represented? Will it be more realistic? It seems that how it is represented in game now is a bit exagerated (too much like a flame thrower). From period gun footage (or even modern high caliber gun fire footage) it would seem that yes, there is sometimes visible flames, but really they are much more subtle in real life, and in daylight are mostly just puffs of smoke.

Also will the tracer contrail be a bit more realistic (or the graphics more detailed) as well?

muzzle flash... Video and especially film camera can't register on their 24 (and in WWII often 10 to 16) frams per second many of light changes that happens when the gun fires... As well as the specific of sencitivity of film and its dynamic rage that can't registed fire as we can see in real life.
So in Il-2 it was done in the last versions more real than you think...
And I haven't seen yet in a sim more real tracers... If you mean color - they are all by a tracer specifications docs of WWII shells/bullets for each country that we modelled.

At night the fire/flash leight of 20 mm cannon could be even more than 2 meters...
At day it is the same but visible less and even more less on the film (in short words).
At flight it depending of speed... But anyway it is present. The differences of leight we plan to model in flight and on the ground, at day and at night.
The difference at the day/night time was done in Il-2 for the for the first time in the world in game industry. Try yourself to check it....

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

muzzle flash... Video and especially film camera can't register on their 24 (and in WWII often 10 to 16) frams per second many of light changes that happens when the gun fires... As well as the specific of sencitivity of film and its dynamic rage that can't registed fire as we can see in real life.
So in Il-2 it was done in the last versions more real than you think...
And I haven't seen yet in a sim more real tracers... If you mean color - they are all by a tracer specifications docs of WWII shells/bullets for each country that we modelled.

At night the fire/flash leight of 20 mm cannon could be even more than 2 meters...
At day it is the same but visible less and even more less on the film (in short words).
At flight it depending of speed... But anyway it is present. The differences of leight we plan to model in flight and on the ground, at day and at night.
The difference at the day/night time was done in Il-2 for the for the first time in the world in game industry. Try yourself to check it....

Well, I've fired thousands of 7.62 rounds with the M240 which should be rather equivalent to the .303:s in the Spitfires and Hurricanes. Just as Oleg says - the actual size of a muzzle flash from an MG is very hard to capture on film. On an M240 it feels like it is 50-70 cm long and 20-30 cm wide. It looks a LOT larger than it does "in the movies"... When you fire blanks it gets even worse - it's like a giant fireball in front of the M240...

It is however very hard to capture these on film... We tried it a lot but it does not look nearly as "cool" on a video as it does IRL I'm sure that everyone that has fired a real MG can chime in on this.

EDIT - another thing, the MG:s in many fighter planes during WWII did not have effective flash suppressors from what I know. That ought to add quite a lot to the muzzle flash intensity...

/Mazex

[GSpector]

I think the Sims are awesome in many ways and from what I am reading here, they are about to get better.

I just have 1 suggestion in regards to the Career aspect, more Decorations.

It seems many sims stick to the same basic 5 Medals to earn, granted IL-2 has covered many more Countries then any other sim and that's great but what I would like to see (someday) are Ribbons for achievements, not just for valor.

I might be asking to much for a view of Pilots wearing the decorations like MicroProse did in F-117a (aka F-19) Stealth Fighter way back in 1988.

I figure medals are ok for Aerial Victories, but what about longevity of the career, or ground attacks?

Even Campaign Ribbons after completing say 10 or 20 Missions in 1 campaign would be nice.

Russia, Germany, United States and other Countries had a lot of decorations back in WW2.

Since just about everything on BoB SOW will be new, will this to be expanded upon?