Proper Path before Demonis?

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by namad

loki's touch has a limit of ~80% of the leadership of your stack so if you're facing off against a lot of strong/very strong/deadly enemies it'll be almost useless (like if you're doing a mage impossible playthrough) although on a skald-normal playthrough I can imagine it being the best ability in the game! (the ai is borked and basically treats the rabid unit as if it's hypnotized and wastes all of it's turns attacking it all out like a fool)

compare to some of the weaker elf abilities working on 150% leadership, or infinite leadership and it seems a bit stronger even if the effects are weak (1 turn of fighting, or a few turns of sleep) then engineer's blind is infinite leadership and aoe!

True, on Impossible it would probably be close to useless. But on my first Normal playthrough it was magnificent, precisely because the rabid stack becomes the top priority for the AI.

As for the elf CC abilities, AFAIK they don't work on undead (charm, sleep etc.) that's why elves suck at fighting the horde (also ranged attacks are weak against skeleton archers and ghosts and poison damage is weak on all undead). And I've never tried the engineer, does blinding work on undead?

[Nevar]

Originally Posted by Karlos

True, on Impossible it would probably be close to useless. But on my first Normal playthrough it was magnificent, precisely because the rabid stack becomes the top priority for the AI.

As for the elf CC abilities, AFAIK they don't work on undead (charm, sleep etc.) that's why elves suck at fighting the horde (also ranged attacks are weak against skeleton archers and ghosts and poison damage is weak on all undead). And I've never tried the engineer, does blinding work on undead?

I agree with those points. Blinding worked on undead in CW. I assume it works that way in WotN. Only works on 1-4, but then, the only level 5 Undead is the Bone Dragon.

And yeah, Elves aren't really equipped to fight undead, even if unicorns do get bonuses against them. I can sort of see why the Elves fell against the undead in KB:TL now.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by Nevar

even if unicorns do get bonuses against them.

Yeah, forgot about them. And in fact they're fantastic. I only used them in the last fight of the game, where you get all-elven army but it seemed to me they do vastly more damage to the undead than the Inquisitors which I used all the time. Even though the Inquisitors have higher bonus (50 % vs. 30 % of unicorns).

[namad]

rabid doesn't work against undead either, so as a comparison between the viking and elf CC debuffs it wasn't relevant...



engineer in kb:wotn is level 1-3 I am sure. although i think it was lvl 1-3 in kb:cw i might be wrong.