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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-24-2012, 06:26 AM
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After discussing current situation with CLoD on other forums, I wanted to share one point that came up:

IL2:1946 was just as bland, boring and lifeless, it was it's community that made the amazing content like missions/campaigns/wars. CLOD as a platform is immense - it has more models of different types of fence than RoF has models put together), scripts and triggers can do stuff that is impossible in old Il2, it can run more than a couple of AI units in multiplayer missions (unlike RoF), it is nowhere near as limiting to simultaneous unit numbers as RoF, it has Full Mission Editor that, while can create very complex missions with alternative branchings of events, is still easy to pick up and start using (unlike RoF again), etc... So it STILL has the potential to grow, now that the final patch is out, only this growth now depends on our community.

Also I hope that MG will release SDK for CLoD, that would be great for content growth - new maps for one. I'd love an Afrika personally

But, providing community content for CloD will continue to emerge, we could even make do without SDK altogether.

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PS Having flown CLoD, I now find Il2:1946 FM to be crude - the crazy stall fights with planes that are far too forgiving,light and sensitive are not what CLoD is about. Ballistics in CLoD are on a different level as well . So I just could not go back to Il2 personally- but that's not the main point of my post The main point is that ,contrary to waht many say, CLoD does not have to stay "what it is" -it still can become something much much more.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:01 AM
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:22 AM
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yeah i agree with the posters that said the SDK would come with the sequel . . .


although a part of me says that will be shelved and won't be available until after the sequel . . . maybe in a patch or even the sequel's sequel, the third one.

The devs have alot to work on still, to make the sequel all they promised, and I think stuff like game engine, AI, trees, clouds, weather, or comms or something else will be given priority. After all they're going to have to focus on something that is a hit out of the ball park, something awesome to give to the community, that works first time for most systems, after the fiasco . . .

but agree with the OP, the community plays a huge role in helping improve CLOD and provide more CLOD content.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:29 AM
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As long as the devs cannot provide regular contents, the game will be stuck at least until BoM will come. Ipsonally hope, that we see new scenarios, new planes, etc every year. It strongly depends on getting close to the amount of content, that il2 1946 has. We need every scenario and a big quantity of planes to create planesets and new evenings. We need some room for own decisions, if we fly a scenario with historically correct planes or with competitive planes.

And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view. I am looking forward to the eastern anf western fronts, where you can create much more scenarios and more atmosphere. Bob just was a couple of weeks, where both sides just wanted to win time for next steps. Noone really could blame the other side completely.

And: I want to fly a focke with "komandogeraet" and have an advantage not to manage as much as the enemy. Just want to see, if this could really generate an advantage, as it historically was. Just love to see something like that. Just want to fly focke
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:48 AM
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As long as the devs cannot provide regular contents, the game will be stuck at least until BoM will come. Ipsonally hope, that we see new scenarios, new planes, etc every year. It strongly depends on getting close to the amount of content, that il2 1946 has. We need every scenario and a big quantity of planes to create planesets and new evenings. We need some room for own decisions, if we fly a scenario with historically correct planes or with competitive planes.

And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view. I am looking forward to the eastern anf western fronts, where you can create much more scenarios and more atmosphere. Bob just was a couple of weeks, where both sides just wanted to win time for next steps. Noone really could blame the other side completely.

And: I want to fly a focke with "komandogeraet" and have an advantage not to manage as much as the enemy. Just want to see, if this could really generate an advantage, as it historically was. Just love to see something like that. Just want to fly focke
Are you serious, the British pilots and the Europeans that joined them were fighting so that there was somewhere to continue the war from, whether the Germans invaded or not had they gained air superiority over Britain there would never have been all the "exciting" campaigns too follow.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:53 AM
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As long as the devs cannot provide regular contents, the game will be stuck at least until BoM will come. Ipsonally hope, that we see new scenarios, new planes, etc every year. It strongly depends on getting close to the amount of content, that il2 1946 has. We need every scenario and a big quantity of planes to create planesets and new evenings. We need some room for own decisions, if we fly a scenario with historically correct planes or with competitive planes.

And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view. I am looking forward to the eastern anf western fronts, where you can create much more scenarios and more atmosphere. Bob just was a couple of weeks, where both sides just wanted to win time for next steps. Noone really could blame the other side completely.

And: I want to fly a focke with "komandogeraet" and have an advantage not to manage as much as the enemy. Just want to see, if this could really generate an advantage, as it historically was. Just love to see something like that. Just want to fly focke

Cant beleive i just read that. Go read some history books will you.
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And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view.
Only on this forum...

8/10 for Clod anybody...?
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Cant beleive i just read that. Go read some history books will you.
What are u talking about? What about history books? It is just my opinion, that I would like to play other scenarios than the channel map. Channel map in 1946 was boring and forced some guys to quit playing on that card, also saying, that they wait for clod. And now the same with all the guys I know. Game is boring, map is boring.

Again: just my opinion. And I do not say, that the fact I love a focke and the possibilties to simulate all its features, is causing that I fly blue on an eastern front scenario to gain kills. I would fly lagg or mig, yak and la as well. I like the la5 or even a mig3. It has nothing to do with unbalancing it. It is room for everything you would think of. Overwhelming quantities against better planes could also be great.

Concerning 2 weeks: never said that. I just overdosed to "a couple of weeks" to state, that I am bored of bob. Next scenarios after the time of bob are all more interesting for me, although I also love the beauty spit. Just overshooting, but I really do not really like it that much. And couple of others said that as well earlier, where the plans for a new il2 were announced. Many said, that channel map isn't their favorite. Sure I want it and also wabt all the planes of this period, but I am personally dreaming of other scenarios. Basta

No need for insults here. I attacked noone. And again after all that: What do history books and face palm have to do with my opinion? Rofl!!!
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As long as the devs cannot provide regular contents, the game will be stuck at least until BoM will come. Ipsonally hope, that we see new scenarios, new planes, etc every year. It strongly depends on getting close to the amount of content, that il2 1946 has. We need every scenario and a big quantity of planes to create planesets and new evenings. We need some room for own decisions, if we fly a scenario with historically correct planes or with competitive planes.

And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view. I am looking forward to the eastern anf western fronts, where you can create much more scenarios and more atmosphere. Bob just was a couple of weeks, where both sides just wanted to win time for next steps. Noone really could blame the other side completely.

And: I want to fly a focke with "komandogeraet" and have an advantage not to manage as much as the enemy. Just want to see, if this could really generate an advantage, as it historically was. Just love to see something like that. Just want to fly focke
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And again my claim: The battle of britain is a freaking boring scenario of the war in my view.
Each to their own I guess,but I would hardly call The Battle Of Britain a freaking boring scenario!...........
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