Why so little interaction with the community?

[ramstein]

How many IL-2 COD pilots are pissed at the developers, but hold back just to be nice...
no way in hell a lot of people would ever consider buying any expansions when the core is b.s. especially the red side... maybe the Russians think Western customers are gullible and stupid...

IL-2 went from the best to ....... well you know.. not good...

If DCS can do good why can't 1C ???

we have a saying,,
S*** or get off the pot..

[Viking]

Originally Posted by ramstein

How many IL-2 COD pilots are pissed at the developers, but hold back just to be nice...
no way in hell a lot of people would ever consider buying any expansions when the core is b.s. especially the red side... maybe the Russians think Western customers are gullible and stupid...

IL-2 went from the best to ....... well you know.. not good...

If DCS can do good why can't 1C ???

we have a saying,,
S*** or get off the pot..

OK so you s****, will you now please be so good to get of the pot and never return?!

viking

[Osprey]

People are voting with their feet as a result. This forum is really quiet these days, last update apart from mine, one any thread, was 30 minutes prior. For a game with such a dedicated community that's pretty crap. Hardline moderation doesn't help either.

Originally Posted by Osprey

People are voting with their feet as a result. This forum is really quiet these days, last update apart from mine, one any thread, was 30 minutes prior. For a game with such a dedicated community that's pretty crap. Hardline moderation doesn't help either.

To be fair I think the moderation on the forums has been very reasonable of late, I mean they let me back when they certainly didn't have to.

[Osprey]

It's consistent at least, but there's no room for banter, and that makes it like a dull classroom.

[skarden]

Yeah even I have to admit the communication of late has been very sub par, and I consider myself a big fan of 1C and of CoD in general, admittedly I haven't played it for about 8 months due to being overseas, but even the state it was in before I left was very playable and enjoyable for me personally.

But this lack of communication from the devs especially after Luither said he'd be back to answer our questions after the last update is very disheartening, not even a reason has been given for the delay, I'm hoping that they're planning to announce something when they do get back to us.

It's actually the first time I've felt let down by them, which is kinda disappointing, fingers crossed it's for a good reason.

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by skarden

But this lack of communication from the devs especially after Luither said he'd be back to answer our questions after the last update is very disheartening, not even a reason has been given for the delay, I'm hoping that they're planning to announce something when they do get back to us.

This is my fault. I should collect 5-10 old questions and send them to Ilya. But I made new threads and I collected over 200 questions. I don't know when he'll find time for this.

[hiro]

Originally Posted by csThor

I've said it again and again, only to be ignored every single time: Luthier is not Oleg. He hates PR and "communication". He'd like nothing better to lock himself and the team up in the office complex, work on whatever project they have on their hands and not be bothered at all by suits with milestones and deadlines and especially not by players wanting to know what's going on.

Neither asking for answers nor yammering about the state of CloD will change that fundamental aversion to PR and communication. He doesn't like it so he's avoiding it whenever possible.

Explains alot, and yes some don't seem to notice this . . .

Can't go back to the old days, and wishing Oleg was here, its changed.

I wish they would communicate better, but we don't have it. And the blame partly lies here. I mean there is a lot of .. . issues.

They give us an update, but it spawns questions. They give a deadline, but miss it, and some drag them through the coals. Software development tends to have more gremlins than say mechanical or actual physical aspects of building or creating . . . So hard and fast deadlines sometimes are missed and there is some irregularity, chaos, and unexpected things happening.

But the issues can be fixed with a degree of reliability, regularity, and minimal unexpected issues . . . but needs tons of manpower and / or money coupled with a high degree of expertise. Anyone of those three are missing, and you go back to irregularity and deadlines missed.

And the devs don't have tons of money or manpower, though they may have the expertise . . .



Luthier says later in a day, well TG we're not a pinned down squad and Luthier is our CAS . . . cuz he'd be flying over the next day with the answers and find the place crawling with opposing forces and dozens of SAM sites and hundreds of AAA and smalls arms fire to deal with.

We know they don't communicate goodly

they should. but they don't. We can hope they are playing the BOM works and everyone will be happy ending.

And I hope this is true.




someone mentioned DCS . . . they have a working solid game engine. . . Cliffs doesn't. Of course DCS can pull off a mustang.

1) WORKING engine
2) Mustang ONE of the most beloved warbirds and enough in the modern times to get an accurate feel for to model correctly in a game . . .

vs CLod

1) brokey engine
2) 50+ warbirds, some with obscure information . . .


a working game engine is key . . . and DCS shows it.


Someone else mentioned the usual Jason is uber and they wish ROF took over IL-2 . .

ROF facts:


ROF customer service is rated one of the best places to work for. Its easy when everyone nearly all the calls is congratulating them for a great game.



But it boils down to if they can deliver a working BOM game. That's all they can do, it's what really counts in the end.




it sucks but I also wish 1C would improve on customer interaction / relations / communication.

But I also wish the human race didn't have to fight wars, and evil wasn't in the hearts of some people . . . and we had a great global economy . . .


but things aren't meant to be.

If there was a choice between good customer service and communication and a mediocre game vs a great game with bad customer service,

I'd take the great game . . .


sometimes life aint always what we expect or want it to be, we just have to make due with what we got.