109 elevator and aileron behaviour with 18301(bugtracker)

[yobnaf]

The Bf 109 feels correct and realistic now. Keep up the good work 1C

[David198502]

Originally Posted by catito14

Is there any chance that the problem is in the hottas/joy or in the sensitive of these instead in the FM itself??
Because i reseted my x-52 pro after applied the patch and i don´t see difference in the ailerons of the 109.

well one thing is for sure, its not my joystick.
as soon as i switched back to the official steam version, the problem was gone.it was as well gone when i tried the previous beta, and it was there again as soon as i reinstalled the current beta patch.

regarding the sensitivity,....i have no sensitivity applied neither in any joystick software nor in the game itself.never have and never will...

[catito14]

Originally Posted by David198502

well one thing is for sure, its not my joystick.
as soon as i switched back to the official steam version, the problem was gone.it was as well gone when i tried the previous beta, and it was there again as soon as i reinstalled the current beta patch.

regarding the sensitivity,....i have no sensitivity applied neither in any joystick software nor in the game itself.never have and never will...

Well, then, the 1c guys will need to prove (with historical documents) that this FM is the correct in the BF-109 instead the older one.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by David198502

well one thing is for sure, its not my joystick.
as soon as i switched back to the official steam version, the problem was gone.it was as well gone when i tried the previous beta, and it was there again as soon as i reinstalled the current beta patch.

regarding the sensitivity,....i have no sensitivity applied neither in any joystick software nor in the game itself.never have and never will...

No, you are correct, but still very flyable...I'm back on the last official to Steam, because of poor quality of E3 sight...limits on-line though

[David198502]

btw, thx warhound for posting the link to the hurri bugreport!searched for it yesterday but couldnt find it somehow.

[Warhound]

No need to thank me at all, I only want it fixed just like you.
Just did some quick flights and it seems to me the problem is worse on the hurricane.
So it hasn't been fixed there and now is (intermittently?) present on the 109 too.

[5card]

Same here with the 109, I can dive at 700km and the nose is moving around so bad its really hard to get a shot off. It's like when the nose moves to the right a rudder correction to the left does not put the reticle where it should be. Snapshots are very hard now also, nose bounces above and below target.

[skouras]

if its more close to the RL FM i have no problem with that [i doubt]
personally i don't think that RL 109 flying like that at all..
however i don't have problems on flying or shoot down an enemy opponent
i'm using warthog BTW

[Redroach]

In the Il-2 1946 109 flight models, Aileron and elevator got heavier and heavier with increasing speed. And those flight models were considered sacrosanct nearly universially.

[drewpee]

The old joystick profiler from il2 1946 was a great way to iron out joystick/flight model deficiencies. ATM I also find trimming the 109 at any speed difficult. I use a Saitek x52.