Man Made Global Warming

[Porsche]

Guys the point I tried to post in earlier discussions was the fact that neither side is right. You have people that are inherently left or right. These people are the ones that get their panties in a twist. When one person accuses Fox news of being right and that it is in essence evil then you have outed that person as being a leftist. The point being Fox and CNN in America are both propaganda channels that are designed to take your thinking away and have you always accusing the problems of the country/world on the other side. Have a brain and think for yourself. If everyone could actually think for themselves and not be programmed to think other than what is being bombarded on the channel they watch then the whole world would be a better place. Europeans I have found in many ways do not understand Americans. We have two sides in our country. One of people who are inherently Socialists. They think the government should take care of everyone and dictate what they should do. Now they will tell you that's not the case however they will argue for this all the time. Then you have the Right that does not want government in anything however as they preach this they are dealing with companies that benefit from the military industrial complex. Then there are people that see things in the middle of the two. They realize that the government takes care of many things already and that being 100% supposedly Free Market and self regulated has led us to where our financial situation is. However there are only two parties in American politics. Both have collectively voted for and caused all the problems. In America both sides try to brainwash the people to associate one side with either the complete left or complete right. Too many younger people are influenced by this and seem to attack or get extremely angry at anyone that does not have their view/ or the view of their party. This is called divide and conquer. Everyone here realize that no one is 100% right. That does not exist in real life. We all need to work together to make the world a better place for the future. Truly listen to each others opinions. From there you will be able to break out of the brainwashed ideas you have been fed. You will grow your mind and become the person you are meant to be. Not what the news channel tells you. We are all alike anywhere in the world. It is external factors telling you otherwise.

Peace everyone...

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Porsche

Guys the point I tried to post in earlier discussions was the fact that neither side is right. You have people that are inherently left or right. These people are the ones that get their panties in a twist. When one person accuses Fox news of being right and that it is in essence evil then you have outed that person as being a leftist. The point being Fox and CNN in America are both propaganda channels that are designed to take your thinking away and have you always accusing the problems of the country/world on the other side. Have a brain and think for yourself. If everyone could actually think for themselves and not be programmed to think other than what is being bombarded on the channel they watch then the whole world would be a better place. Europeans I have found in many ways do not understand Americans. We have two sides in our country. One of people who are inherently Socialists. They think the government should take care of everyone and dictate what they should do. Now they will tell you that's not the case however they will argue for this all the time. Then you have the Right that does not want government in anything however as they preach this they are dealing with companies that benefit from the military industrial complex. Then there are people that see things in the middle of the two. They realize that the government takes care of many things already and that being 100% supposedly Free Market and self regulated has led us to where our financial situation is. However there are only two parties in American politics. Both have collectively voted for and caused all the problems. In America both sides try to brainwash the people to associate one side with either the complete left or complete right. Too many younger people are influenced by this and seem to attack or get extremely angry at anyone that does not have their view/ or the view of their party. This is called divide and conquer. Everyone here realize that no one is 100% right. That does not exist in real life. We all need to work together to make the world a better place for the future. Truly listen to each others opinions. From there you will be able to break out of the brainwashed ideas you have been fed. You will grow your mind and become the person you are meant to be. Not what the news channel tells you. We are all alike anywhere in the world. It is external factors telling you otherwise.

Peace everyone...

I am not exactly sure what this implies. Every Nation only works upon the basis that their population, at least to a certain degree, are on one page. You have a failed state if opinions diverge to such a degree that people can't get together anymore. You have to teach your youth "something". That is not brainwashing, that is education.

The mere fact that you speak of "propaganda" channels points in this direction.

Furthermore, science is science. Politics naturally also plays a role in science, but in the US, there is no science anymore. It was replaced by "opinions".

Now I studied US history quite a bit, mostsly for the reason that it was a role model for my younger self. And though you may call CNN propaganda, FOX News, when it appeared, immidiatly fell out in this regard as a news channel on one level with some of the cheapest tabloids out there. A cheap tabloid that managed to transform a once highly respectful party into a bunch of out of their minds lunatics.

Also, Fox News is a fairly new news channel, insofar one could argue that it is them trying to topple the "old" USA. That at least is the impression coming over to other places.

Or let's put it another way...roughly since FOX news appeared, the US has seen a constant decline in wealth, respect and reputation throughout the world. I doubt that is a coincidence. That ridicolous labeling of everything being socialist and communist is just the tip of the iceberg. We lived here right next to real communism, and what Fox labels as such does not even come close to that.

If Fox News has it's way, then you end up in a society more akin to Latin america and Greece, where elites do not even have to dodge taxes anymore because they want to get rid of them alltogether. The funny thing is, unlike any other country, that the blue collars actually support that.

It is a devious game that plays on the hope of the common man to get rich one day himself. (which basically is impossible anyways

[5./JG27.Farber]

The best place to get news from is the "enemy", watch your own countries news then watch Russia Today or Aljezera... Then make up your own mind

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

The best place to get news from is the "enemy", watch your own countries news then watch Russia Today or Aljezera... Then make up your own mind

Exactly. Watch the enemies news. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You don't have to watch anything international to see enemy news though you have it right in your own backyard. Every place has it.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

The best place to get news from is the "enemy", watch your own countries news then watch Russia Today or Aljezera... Then make up your own mind

enemy, eh?

[jimson8]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Also, Fox News is a fairly new news channel, insofar one could argue that it is them trying to topple the "old" USA. That at least is the impression coming over to other places.

Or let's put it another way...roughly since FOX news appeared, the US has seen a constant decline in wealth, respect and reputation throughout the world. I doubt that is a coincidence. That ridicolous labeling of everything being socialist and communist is just the tip of the iceberg. We lived here right next to real communism, and what Fox labels as such does not even come close to that.

There is a difference between news and commentary. When you watch Sean Hannity you know you are going to get a conservative viewpoint. He states upfront that he is a conservative Republican.

Contrast that with Dan Rather, who always claimed to be objective, but was always anything but.

There is a reason why Fox news came to be and why they have much greater success than any other cable new channel. They serve a market that was apparently under served.

I'm sure this will start an argument from those who deny that the vast majority of all other American media is slanted left and those who arrogantly state "The truth has a liberal bias."

Here is one of your own who admits what is obvious to so many.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/168466360...ylist_id=86856

Watch the video before you claim "It came from Fox, has to be a lie."

MSNBC is at least the liberal equivalent of Fox, and I see more liberal guests on Fox than I ever see conservatives on MSNBC.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by jimson8

There is a difference between news and commentary. When you watch Sean Hannity you know you are going to get a conservative viewpoint. He states upfront that he is a conservative Republican.

Contrast that with Dan Rather, who always claimed to be objective, but was always anything but.

There is a reason why Fox news came to be and why they have much greater success than any other cable new channel. They serve a market that was apparently under served.

I'm sure this will start an argument from those who deny that the vast majority of all other American media is slanted left and those who arrogantly state "The truth has a liberal bias."

Here is one of your own who admits what is obvious to so many.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/168466360...ylist_id=86856

Watch the video before you claim "It came from Fox, has to be a lie."

MSNBC is at least the liberal equivalent of Fox, and I see more liberal guests on Fox than I ever see conservatives on MSNBC.

The bold part is the crux of the problem. News are not there to please market desires. If they start doing that, then they also will have to adjust their reporting to the likings of their viewers. That is in direct conflict with any kind of objectivity. That also is what tabloids do. Not saying CNN is better, but for sure more in line with western values outside this radical capitalism. I also noticed a tendency in the US to get rid of things altogether instead of fixing them, and ppl a) not thinking in terms of society anymore, but only "me". b) ppl not thinking long term anymore (future generations), but only "now".

This thread, by all means, is living proof of that development.

The US once was more grown up then this. And a more successful country back then.

[jimson8]

Biased, if not corrupt network news directly led to "designer news." It makes little difference if it comes from a desire to please a market or from prejudices seeping out even subconsciously.

It's not even so much the fairness of the journalism, but what is given the most coverage and what is given less. Much is driven by what equals good ratings, but ideology also plays a very significant role.

There is no answer for this.

We are bombarded by so much conflicting information, the "truth" we choose to believe is that which conforms best to our own opinions.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by jimson8

Biased, if not corrupt network news directly led to "designer news." It makes little difference if it comes from a desire to please a market or from prejudices seeping out even subconsciously.

It's not even so much the fairness of the journalism, but what is given the most coverage and what is given less. Much is driven by what equals good ratings, but ideology also plays a very significant role.

There is no answer for this.

We are bombarded by so much conflicting information, the "truth" we choose to believe is that which conforms best to our own opinions.

Agreed here. But then it comes back down to cohersion of society. If everybody just choses to believe what he wants, without an agreement on at least some principles, a society won't work long. It may have worked back in the days when ppl and communications were more primitive and less interconnected, today it is potentially destructive.

What makes this even more of a concern is the global influence of the US; which has direct conseqences to the rest of the world.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

It may have worked back in the days when ppl and communications were more primitive and less interconnected, today it is potentially destructive.

What do think was the purpose of the ten commandments?