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Old 06-12-2012, 08:33 AM
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I'm good with it, as long as you also tax motorcycle riders for the drain on society for trauma care, also those with other physically dangerous hobbies, those who don't exercise and of course those who do because of sports related injuries and you would want to institute a gay tax for the past if not present costs associated with HIV infection.
road tax and petrol tax could be seen as the sources for that revenue stream. plus motorcyclists fulfil an important role as organ donors. a "fat tax" on high fat content food items has been proposed and would see some measure of popularity, especially considering the costs associated with long term obesity, diabetes etc.

a tax on homosexuality because of HIV? i will presume you are making sport with that one.

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Wait a minute, now shouldn't the person being treated be the one to pay for his care, via the cost of his health insurance over the years? Why is it the states responsibility (read yours and mine) to take care of these people? Its really not.

My grandfather in law had a wonderfully simple way of describing the only obligations of the federal government: Protect the country and deliver the mail.
I think we should probably get towards cutting everything that doesn't fit into those two areas, and leave the rest to the people and what they wish to do via their state legislatures. You sacrifice too much by letting one central government decide for so many people. Smaller govt=better representation. I believe there were some really great fellows who had a similar idea back in the late 1700's.
I mean why is there this big push to just give all power to the state. Seriously the last people we should be granting MORE power to.

We had a similar ballot proposition that just failed here in California, proposition 29.
The state, in their grand wisdom, wanted to set up so many programs and their associated bureaucracies with this additional cigarette tax (and not for the state of california. Funds would have been spent in other states and countries) that a mere 20% of the funds received would have actually gone into any type of research.
Ya, lets give these types more power and money. Its bound to turn out well.

The whole NASA thing you have going there is just incomprehensible. Were a species that needs to expand and explore, and that's what they do.
so now we're moving on to state provision of healthcare versus private healthcare? health insurance that goes to a company whose interest is their profit margin, rather than a state collected tax whose interest is (one would hope) the health of it's population.

concur on needing to expand and explore, however the whole space race thing was a dick waving contest with the soviets. this conflict did indeed drive progress though, and the desire to expand and explore has lasted longer than the dick waving.


OD, good post - stop being so reasonable and measured. it's so unfashionable.

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