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Originally Posted by tools4fools

How about this:

So what part of we will have to agree to disagree are you struggling with?

Well what was I thinking.. In that this is like the 3rd or 4th time I have said that so I guess you just want to argue

Now since you insist on being persistent (aka argumentative)..

Allow me to put all your so called wiki link proof to rest

With that said

Recall that we both agreed that the folks at STORMBIRDS are the 'CONFIRMED AUTHORITIES' aka 'EXPERTS' on the Me262

First up, note that it is apparent from this statement, i.e.

Originally Posted by STORMBIRDS

it is true (as some writers seem intent on repeating loudly and often) that the Me 262s swept wing design was due to the need to adjust the center of gravity for the aircraft

with regards to the 'reason' the wings were swept to correct the cg, where they make note of what 'some writers' like myself point out, that they really hated having to admit that all their research they did during the process of building new Me262s from scratch confirms that statement.

That being the wings were swept to correct the cg due to heavier than expected engine..

Translated.. The wings were NOT swept to take advantage of swept wing theory/technology

As for Germanys knowledge of swept wing theory prior and during the development of the Me262.

STORMBIRDS has this to say wrt Busemann and Walchner published work titled "Profile Characteristics as SUPERSONIC Speed" and the conference on high speed flight held in Rome where Busemann gave a lecture title "Aerodynamic Lift at SUPERSONIC Speed".

Note the qualifier SUPERSONIC, it will come up later

Originally Posted by STORMBIRDS

The real surprise then is why was this knowledge of the swept wing not taken advantage of worldwide before it was experimentally proven on the Me 262. The only plausible (if somewhat vague) explanation was the resistance to new ideas found in all scientific circles

Which also agrees with what I have been saying from the start.. Other than they left out the qualifier that the swept wing studies/data applied to SUPERSONIC flight which is something no plane, not even the early jets of WWII were capable of doing.

Now the funny part is the STORMBIRDS web sight goes on to say

Originally Posted by STORMBIRDS

What concrete connections can we show between later aircraft and the Me 262 and later aircraft you ask? Don't worry, there is enough circumstantial and material evidence....

The best way to approach this subject is to split it into subsections, highlighting the use of 262 technology by general countries and superpowers.

Yet when you click on the subsections ('next pages') what you will find is...

• The ALLIED FORCES page is BLANK (under construction)

• The OTHER FORCES page is BLANK (under construction)

• The SOVIET BLOC page shows some examples of the Soviets testing some Me262 after the war, and a copy (Sukhoi Su9) they made of it that had straight wings (this is that 'one' post war jet I was referring to earlier)

So even STORMBRIDS had/has trouble making the wiki link types of connections between the Me262 and post war jet fighter designs that you claim are 'there' and easy to make..

I suspect it has something to do with STORMBIRDS having a reputation to consider, where as you don't!

Which speaks volumes IMHO

And is very telling for those willing to listen and/or don't buy into the idea that the Germans were supermen and/or being assisted by aliens from space