Horton

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But your missing the point

I think you are missing the point. If you think just because those who lost the war still exist today as nations the history will be 'accurate' and 'neutral' because of that then I think you are wrong. Terribly wrong.
Look at the war against Saddam/Irag and the 'weapons of mass destruction' and the controversy out of that...

For example, the examples I already provided where the Me262 was not the first swept wing design and the V2 rocket was not something the rest of the world never heard of until the Germans build one. Yet that is the history they 'try' to 'sell' today

Well, that's where we disagree then.
Or you tell me which was the first swept wing jet fighter in service and the first ballistic missile used?

It is confirmed

By who? Are those 'confirmed authorities' on the subject?

I would expect them to have to fudge the outer wings to acc

You would expect them? Sorry, but I don't count that as a source...
There's a lot of people out there who 'expect' stuff...

then why did they later on introduce the sweep to the inner section as well (which was obviosuly not needed for CG)?

All your answers to this are assumptions. So it could well be possible that they tested the thing in the wind tunnel and realized that the outer swept wing sections did something good for high speed. And then decided to continue the swepot wing in the inner wing parts.
That would be an assumption as valid as yours - but nothing more than that (and yours). Assumptions.

At the end the real truth lies probably somewhere inbetween.

I stand by this. It is well possible that the first part of wing sweep was done purely because of CG - even if it was done way before the first jet engine was actually put on that wing. Makes me wonder a bit about the claim that it was done because the jet engines were heavier than they thought. So they knew that in 1940, when they still planned with a BMW jet?
Nobody has ever answered the question why it was done to the inner wing as well later on - obviously not needed for CG.
So it is well possible that in the progress of designing the plane they did learn something about the effects of wing sweep as well. After all there was research done before the war even.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...111/SW2623.jpg
Other swept wing design than the Ta 183:
http://www.scientistsandfriends.com/...ns/P1101-1.jpg

The biggest difference between his and the V2 was his had cameras and instruments installed where the Germans put explosives

Nope. The biggest difference is that the V2 actually worked and flew way higher and further. Those were real rockets that worked.
The first ballistic missiles. 300km range and 90km altitude.
Goddards rockets were experimental.

But I think most would agree that it is much easier to refine a design than produce it from scratch

And Goddard used a... De Laval nozzle...invented by De Laval in 1888. Guess what, he did the same than everybody else - build on existing stuff and knowledge, added new own stuff, improved other stuff.

Goddard gets credit for the launch of the first liquid fuel rocket, 1926. Von Braun and team for the first ballistic missile.

Lies? I noticed that you failed to quote anything I said that was a lie..

I never said you were lying - I said history is rewritten by those who win the wars. This is not really done so much by blatant lies but by more subtle ways.

Downplaying advances other countries had made is one of them - covering up for own 'shortcomings' at the same time.
Creating myths is part of that.
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