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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-04-2012, 03:39 PM
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what makes you think that the trim is in anyway assisted by the air? ...
LOL, can't believe i just spent 5 minutes, and so many words replying to one of raaids posts!!!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_tab
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:54 PM
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youre about to learn something new:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_tab
Raaid those are servo tabs and anti servo tabs, sometimes called balance/anti balance tabs, not trim tabs like the ones in game, true that aircraft with balance/anti balance tabs are trimmed throught them but they are a completely different thing.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:20 PM
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the wiki says

See also: Trim tab

its different name for the same thing, a trim tab is servoassisted by the wind force and should have never been delayed by the massive peoples nagging who werent able to handle stick and trim at the same time

maybe you see a difference on weather the tabs are controlled by a wheel or the stick but this doesnt change the fact theyre servo assisted
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I wouldn't say the effect of a trim tab is minor...

There are many examples of how strongly the smallest surface can affect an airplane. Especially if the physical properties are right (or wrong) meaning structural integrity, weight etc.

Keep the p51 crashes in mind as they're good examples for this http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...-crash-6481596
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:34 PM
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See also: Trim tab
not because they are the same thing.

Trim tabs are not servoassisted by airflow.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:57 PM
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Well, when you trim you are not realy assisted by the wind, because the little surface still has to go on to airflow, but i understand what raaid says, if we know how it works it is logical to think like that. It becomes unmultiplied like in a pulley. But i dont think rotating a weel several turns will be faster than pulling or pushing the column control. Just my opinion, i am not plane expert.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:44 PM
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DO THIS EXPERIment:

dive in a 109 and use the stick, its so irresponsive

now do the same with the elevator trim, it responds smooth as silk
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I have heard accounts of hurricanes in the far East falling into dives that were too steep to pull out of due to speed, only surviving by using elevator trim to slowly gain leverage to pull back the control column.
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exactly the wise comunity called this a bat turn and due to the outrage of people losing for not being able to control two things at the same time devs delayed the trim or supressed it practically
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I think I saw this thread in oh, 2003 or 2004.

raaaid, you really do have a time machine don't you?
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