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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-14-2012, 12:03 AM
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Its a SIMULATOR... It simulates.... If you want fairness your in the wrong "game".
Ok then I'll see you in the skies hugging your bombers and not diving to chase me! I can't wait for our next simulated fight!


Yeah. That's my point. If you are going to "simulate" then let's go the whole 9, otherwise you have just tipped the balance of a pvp online GAME. Even further than it was already scued.

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Old 04-14-2012, 02:17 AM
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Ok then I'll see you in the skies hugging your bombers and not diving to chase me! I can't wait for our next simulated fight!


Yeah. That's my point. If you are going to "simulate" then let's go the whole 9, otherwise you have just tipped the balance of a pvp online GAME. Even further than it was already scued.
So you didnt even read my last post. Then the discussion is over. It its not a discussion but an arguement with a fanatic...

This is not a "pvp online GAME" its a simulator...
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:36 AM
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This is not a "pvp online GAME" its a simulator...
Farbs, for the benefit of the uneducated, (me), what does 'pvp' mean please?
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:39 AM
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Farbs, for the benefit of the uneducated, (me), what does 'pvp' mean please?
pvp is a MMORPG term meaning player vs player... Hence nothing to do with simulation but only fairness and balance...

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Old 04-14-2012, 02:42 AM
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pvp is a MMORPG term meaning player vs player... Hence nothing to do with simulation but only fairness...
Ah, thanks. And MMORPG?

I'm assuming the 'RPG' bit to be 'role play game'.

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Old 04-14-2012, 04:56 AM
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pvp is a MMORPG term meaning player vs player... Hence nothing to do with simulation but only fairness and balance...
Wow I mean I've seen people try to dilute themselves before but is is egregious. Pvp means player vs player. Ie you area player and I am a player. So we are in a pvp match. Sorry to burst your bubble man. No mmorpg in cod, just good old pvp action, that is now completely unbalance.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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Facts yes but Hans Wind was not fighting Hurricanes in a Bf-109E.
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Ok then I'll see you in the skies hugging your bombers and not diving to chase me! I can't wait for our next simulated fight!


Yeah. That's my point. If you are going to "simulate" then let's go the whole 9, otherwise you have just tipped the balance of a pvp online GAME. Even further than it was already scued.
No, IL-2 is not RPG. It is not a MMORPG either. You are not supposed to roleplay in IL-2, though you could do it. So if a good online squadron make a campaign and state it is historical, then they could give orders for squadron leaders to do, for example, close escort for bombers and the pilots would RP the stupid tactics.

But one fancy thing in IL-2 is that you don't have to default to bad historical tactics but you can rather implement better tactics. This is very common in wargaming. There can be a historical scenario where you are supposed to change history with better tactics and strategy than commanders used in real.
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