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Old 04-02-2012, 03:25 PM
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I am not really sure if you can solve a cultural problem with money, really. You would have to ask, first of all, why the problem came into being, especially compared to other developed countries (which by now are playing catch up with the US in this regard, France, the UK, Germany all show a similiar trend, though still lagging a couple years behind the US).

I think this has more to do with our general system, which in many cases forces people to go for the cheapest or the least time consuming products, which usually are fat and sugar rich.

Trying to cure symptoms instead of going for the root problem usually only delays the problem, or cuases different ones alltogether.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:04 PM
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while on a vast portion of the planet the mayority of people are starving , in other places people eat to death.
we live in a really sick world
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:44 PM
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Don't forget the sedentary lifestyle.
If people would excercise just a little bit they would be in much better shape.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:17 AM
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If people would excercise just a little bit they would be in much better shape.
Healthier yes, but thinner? that might actually not be true (I am not a doctor, nor a nutritionist).

There is something going on with diets not working out.

It might be thyroid, it might be a lot of things, and medicine doesn't yet seem to know what.

Some people are blaming carbs, and some blame fats, but it does seem we just don't know what's happening with obesity.

It's all very well saying that all fat people who try to lose weight lie about how much they eat, but if they don't lie, then there is something pretty strange going on.

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.co.uk...-term-low.html

That's by a diabetic for diabetics, but it describes the sort of diet wall that I have experienced myself (I wasn't diabetic the last time anybody checked, which was within a couple of years).
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:12 AM
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it does seem we just don't know what's happening with obesity.
I can say what it is not: environment. I've seen thousands of Chinese and Vietnamese in N. America and haven't spotted an obese one yet. Also junk food was just as abundant in the 70's and 80's as it is now, so the main variable here seems to be level of physical activity.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:33 AM
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Well Ive seen plenty of them, so scratch that.
In my job I get to see the whole spectrum of economic classes and the one thing that is striking is how many more people in the lower classes are fatter than those that are better off.
Definitely seems to be a tie to economics here, probably because cheap food=crap.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:19 AM
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its about personal responsibility. if you choose to eat crap and sit on your azz all day, fine. don't expect me to pay for it. just as I don't want you to pay for mine. as far as cheap food = crap. i call b.s. on that. you can eat cheap and stay healthy if you choose to do it. actually, it is cheaper to eat healthy. for example, beans/legumes, make your own bread, block cheese, non-fat dry milk, occasional red meat, pasta, canned tomatoes, potatoes...etc. I call it the pioneer diet and you can do it for about $100 a month. today I ran a few miles. tomorrow i'll lift some weights. this is how i roll. it's disgusting what has happened to modern society. we are so weak and pathetic. everyone looking for a handout or an excuse. i've had many injuries and i'm not young by any means, but the human body can take a sheetload if you treat it right and manage your risks. healthwise, sitting on your butt is probably the most harmful things you could do to yourself. even just a brisk 10-15 minute walk each day can make a huge difference and it's free.
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