Today's Infographic: USA eating itself into extinction

[CWMV]

Don't forget the sedentary lifestyle.
If people would excercise just a little bit they would be in much better shape.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by CWMV

If people would excercise just a little bit they would be in much better shape.

Healthier yes, but thinner? that might actually not be true (I am not a doctor, nor a nutritionist).

There is something going on with diets not working out.

It might be thyroid, it might be a lot of things, and medicine doesn't yet seem to know what.

Some people are blaming carbs, and some blame fats, but it does seem we just don't know what's happening with obesity.

It's all very well saying that all fat people who try to lose weight lie about how much they eat, but if they don't lie, then there is something pretty strange going on.

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.co.uk...-term-low.html

That's by a diabetic for diabetics, but it describes the sort of diet wall that I have experienced myself (I wasn't diabetic the last time anybody checked, which was within a couple of years).

[baronWastelan]

it does seem we just don't know what's happening with obesity.

I can say what it is not: environment. I've seen thousands of Chinese and Vietnamese in N. America and haven't spotted an obese one yet. Also junk food was just as abundant in the 70's and 80's as it is now, so the main variable here seems to be level of physical activity.

[CWMV]

Well Ive seen plenty of them, so scratch that.
In my job I get to see the whole spectrum of economic classes and the one thing that is striking is how many more people in the lower classes are fatter than those that are better off.
Definitely seems to be a tie to economics here, probably because cheap food=crap.

[MadBlaster]

its about personal responsibility. if you choose to eat crap and sit on your azz all day, fine. don't expect me to pay for it. just as I don't want you to pay for mine. as far as cheap food = crap. i call b.s. on that. you can eat cheap and stay healthy if you choose to do it. actually, it is cheaper to eat healthy. for example, beans/legumes, make your own bread, block cheese, non-fat dry milk, occasional red meat, pasta, canned tomatoes, potatoes...etc. I call it the pioneer diet and you can do it for about $100 a month. today I ran a few miles. tomorrow i'll lift some weights. this is how i roll. it's disgusting what has happened to modern society. we are so weak and pathetic. everyone looking for a handout or an excuse. i've had many injuries and i'm not young by any means, but the human body can take a sheetload if you treat it right and manage your risks. healthwise, sitting on your butt is probably the most harmful things you could do to yourself. even just a brisk 10-15 minute walk each day can make a huge difference and it's free.

[JG26_EZ]

Stupidity is the strongest culprit in my opinion, and people/companies take advantage of that stupidity, and those that are "the stupid", suffer. Not to mention the rest that have to suffer because of rising health costs, etc,.

For the record.. I live in Canada.. Have you seen the size of products these days? (in Canada) Or the size of a breakfast at "Demmy's" (in the US) for example? (changed the name slightly to avoid any snipers)

When I was young, my mom or dad would (every once in a while) buy a 750ml bottle of pop and stick it in the fridge for a treat. Come dinner time, we'd all pour a glass to have with our dinner (for example). Now? I see kids walking around with 710ml bottles of pop in their hands! To finish in "one sitting". I'd see a guy at work, buy one of those for first break, lunch break, and then afternoon break! And he's sitting in the lunch-room, eating his ham on white bread with their side of (a bag of) chips, trying to figure out with the group, why his belly is so big and his teeth are all turning grey/blue.

The line, "Too much of a good thing, can be a bad thing" comes to mind... (my mind at least, when I see the products getting bigger as years go by)

Oh look!! 33% more for the same price?!?!
Let's be stupid and eat it all up because... Hey, it's still just "one" unit

Just my two cents.

[CWMV]

The only part about that that is unrealistic is the food prep time.
In an earlier time yes, when one person could support a middle class family and the wife could stay home sure, but now you've got two people working all day-no time to make bread...
Or if your a bachelor. Christ I could do whatever I wanted then!

So you've been swinging hammers all day and pick up your kids from daycare/family on your way home. You have to feed them, its late, and you have very little money/time. Wife has just left for her 8 hour night shift. Makes McD's seem like a good alternative.

Course I agree that its no one responsibility but your own, but next time you go to the grocery store try finding a loaf of bread that doesn't have enriched flower or corn products in it. We've only found one brand in our area that has none of this garbage and its about $5 a loaf. Compare that to $.98 for Wonderbread.

Then look at the food that can be bought with food stamps/Wic. Its loaded with fat, sugar, and all the other crap that you should be watching. But if its that or don't eat...

But I'm with you on the exercise thing. I'm very lucky in that I get a good deal of it at work (Walk 10 or more miles a day) and lift in my spare time.
You know whats really scary is that we have a generation that has NEVER been in shape now raising their own children. They don't even know that they are disgusting fat bodies, its just the norm to them. And now they pass that on to their children.

Here's a question though, perhaps we have some medical professionals here?
Do our weight standards reflect reality?
As an example Ill use myself. Currently I am 5'9 (10 on a good day) and weigh 230lbs. This puts me squarely in the Obese range I believe.
BUT-I only have about ~12 percent body fat (been a while since last measurement so may have changed), I work out regularly and get plenty of cardio.
But every time I go to the Doc they give me the standard fat guy lecture.
So should we really go by this standard, or is a revision in order?

[MadBlaster]

Muscle weighs more that fat. If your walking 10 miles a day, your probably fine. Everything the government says or does you should question the agenda imo. There's always an agenda.

A bread machine might be a good solution. You can do a quick cycle and have bread in 30 minutes. It is very simple to do. One of my favorite easy and cheap meals is make split pea soup and fresh bread with a slap of margarine or butter. A 16 oz bag of split peas is 88 cents here and the bread is super cheap to make. 3 cups flour, a little salt, oil, yeast, sugar. You need the sugar because the yeast eats the sugar to get it to rise. That's about 5-6 meals for about $2 and it's pretty healthy, stores well in plastic containers. if you want to go hardcore, you can use wheat flour.

I can't remember the last time I bought store bread. it's probably been 10 years since I did that. The only processed food I buy is dry pasta?. But I also drink coffee and put sugar in that. So, not a complete angel. I don't eat fast food at all. the exception is the holidays with family. then all bets are off and I eat everything in sight.

teach your kids to cook!

[baronWastelan]

Originally Posted by CWMV

The only part about that that is unrealistic is the food prep time.
In an earlier time yes, when one person could support a middle class family and the wife could stay home sure, but now you've got two people working all day-no time to make bread...
Or if your a bachelor. Christ I could do whatever I wanted then!

So you've been swinging hammers all day and pick up your kids from daycare/family on your way home. You have to feed them, its late, and you have very little money/time. Wife has just left for her 8 hour night shift. Makes McD's seem like a good alternative.

Course I agree that its no one responsibility but your own, but next time you go to the grocery store try finding a loaf of bread that doesn't have enriched flower or corn products in it. We've only found one brand in our area that has none of this garbage and its about $5 a loaf. Compare that to $.98 for Wonderbread.

Then look at the food that can be bought with food stamps/Wic. Its loaded with fat, sugar, and all the other crap that you should be watching. But if its that or don't eat...

But I'm with you on the exercise thing. I'm very lucky in that I get a good deal of it at work (Walk 10 or more miles a day) and lift in my spare time.
You know whats really scary is that we have a generation that has NEVER been in shape now raising their own children. They don't even know that they are disgusting fat bodies, its just the norm to them. And now they pass that on to their children.

Here's a question though, perhaps we have some medical professionals here?
Do our weight standards reflect reality?
As an example Ill use myself. Currently I am 5'9 (10 on a good day) and weigh 230lbs. This puts me squarely in the Obese range I believe.
BUT-I only have about ~12 percent body fat (been a while since last measurement so may have changed), I work out regularly and get plenty of cardio.
But every time I go to the Doc they give me the standard fat guy lecture.
So should we really go by this standard, or is a revision in order?

It's simple:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12481427

we should assess risk based on waist-to-height ratio (WHtR); saying that "Your waist circumference should not be more than half your height (WHtR 0.5)".

This is the point at which some action to decrease your waistline should be considered.

My colleagues and I recently published a review of 78 studies in 14 different countries, including Caucasian, Asian and Central American subjects, which has confirmed that WHtR is a better predictor of cardiometabolic risk than BMI and that WHtR 0.5 is a suitable boundary value.

How to measure your waist.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/calculatin...ircumference__

A high-risk waist circumference is:

A man with waist measurement over 40 inches (102 cm).
A woman with waist measurement over 35 inches (88 cm).

To measure your waist circumference, use a tape measure. Start at the top of the hip bone, then bring it all the way around -- level with your navel. Make sure it's not too tight and that it is parallel with the floor. Don't hold your breath while measuring it!