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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-24-2012, 04:07 PM
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Personally I'd rather that they focused their resources on the flying part. Perhaps make it more accessible to new player, with an actually intuitive MP interface and more 'fun' online game modes as options.

What will the inclusion of ground vehicle control in Il2 bring to the 'ADHD market', that BF3 and Arma doesn't already do 10 times better?
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:11 PM
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that BF3 and Arma doesn't already do 10 times better?
BF3 and ARMA main focus is on FPS..

ARMA IMHO is the most realistic FPS todate..

But with that said BF3 and ARMA both suck at flight sims, wrt realism..

It is just in there to give those who get borred playig FPS all the time something else to do.. And something for otehrs to shoot at!

The idea here is 1C is doing the same..

Only difference is 1C's main focus is on FLIGHT..

At least I hope that is the case! No one here knows for sure and anyone other than BS who claims to know is just blowing smoke
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:13 PM
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excellent update..
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:04 PM
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BF3 and ARMA main focus is on FPS..

ARMA IMHO is the most realistic FPS todate..

But with that said BF3 and ARMA both suck at flight sims, wrt realism..

It is just in there to give those who get borred playig FPS all the time something else to do.. And something for otehrs to shoot at!

The idea here is 1C is doing the same..

Only difference is 1C's main focus is on FLIGHT..

At least I hope that is the case! No one here knows for sure and anyone other than BS who claims to know is just blowing smoke
I was just expecting a graphics engine improvement and was impressed at first when seeing the video.Now i am concerned because instead CLoD just went a total different direction here.Its fantastic that the game engine can handle all this with supposedly better frame rates but IMO the majority here would just like to get the game 100% before all these cool neat features are added.Is there any word on coops in this patch?
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I was just expecting a graphics engine improvement and was impressed at first when seeing the video.Now i am concerned because instead CLoD just went a total different direction here.Its fantastic that the game engine can handle all this with supposedly better frame rates but IMO the majority here would just like to get the game 100% before all these cool neat features are added.Is there any word on coops in this patch?
wood! long time no type! S!

no word on eta of patch as far as I know
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:31 PM
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wood! long time no type! S!

no word on eta of patch as far as I know
BS said could be a couple days, look at his most recent posts...
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wood! long time no type! S!

no word on eta of patch as far as I know

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But with that said BF3 and ARMA both suck at flight sims, wrt realism..
Bohemia has released Take On Helicopters and want to incoporate the fm into Arma 3.
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Bohemia has released Take On Helicopters and want to incoporate the fm into Arma 3.
That is good news..

And if 1C takes that same aproach.. That would be great imho! Get your foot in the door with tanks by offering up something that is not as detailed/realistic as it could be.. Make money.. Than if your in the black you can go back and add some polish to those items which in turn should bring in more people

All in all this aproach is about the only way I see a flight sims staying in business from this point forward.. Becuase as much as we flight simmers may hate to admit it.. Flight sims dont have a big ROI!!
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:27 PM
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BF3 and ARMA main focus is on FPS..

ARMA IMHO is the most realistic FPS todate..

But with that said BF3 and ARMA both suck at flight sims, wrt realism..

It is just in there to give those who get borred playig FPS all the time something else to do.. And something for otehrs to shoot at!

The idea here is 1C is doing the same..

Only difference is 1C's main focus is on FLIGHT..

At least I hope that is the case! No one here knows for sure and anyone other than BS who claims to know is just blowing smoke
I would say yes and no to that. No dispute Arma is a highly detailed fps first and foremost. As to the player controlable aircraft maybe they can be used as a distraction for offline players from the core part of the game but if used in MP they can add a huge amount to the 'full battlefield' simulation.

When we were doing Arma2 missions in our squad one of the best was working a patrol down through enemy territory and lasing targets for one of us up in a Harrier. It was all on to keep him (and yourself) alive to complete the objective. The fact that the Harrier was 'light' in terms of realism didn't detract from the overall mission. As I see it 1C have the same in mind but the other way round.

That kind of gameplay is completely immersive and if 1C could combine their level of detail in air sims with ground support even if it wasn't as realistic as their aircraft they would have a real winner on their hands .
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