Why no E4s

[jojovtx]

But the E4 is same as ALL other 109 variants currently in game.

[recoilfx]

no it's not. It has automatic prop pitch and it can be armed with M-Geschoss.

[trumps]

Richie, at the present point in time it is the most agreeable compromise for most concerned. i personally don't like the E-4 due to the auto prop pitch not getting the best out of the engine, and much prefer the MG armament of the E-1 due to being a very stable and accurate platform. with the present planeset minus MKII, and E-4 there is the best possible match up, and some great combat to be had, although to my mind the Rotol Hurri, and the 1a have their flight models mixed up! with time no doubt all will come out in the wash!

Craig

[Richie]

Originally Posted by trumps

Richie, at the present point in time it is the most agreeable compromise for most concerned. i personally don't like the E-4 due to the auto prop pitch not getting the best out of the engine, and much prefer the MG armament of the E-1 due to being a very stable and accurate platform. with the present planeset minus MKII, and E-4 there is the best possible match up, and some great combat to be had, although to my mind the Rotol Hurri, and the 1a have their flight models mixed up! with time no doubt all will come out in the wash!

Craig

I love it because I don't have to worry about lugging or blowing up the motor so I can totally concentrate on the target. Otherwise I suck. The one map that has it in Spit VS 109s you blow up when you spawn.

Anyway to get more speed I take it off and on take off I always use manual but in dogfights there's now way you can argue manual is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaWIF...8&feature=plcp

[jojovtx]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

no it's not. It has automatic prop pitch and it can be armed with M-Geschoss.

And these make the FM of the E4 different than the other Emil series? The issue here is flight model over or under modelling. It is known the 2a is overmodelled(or correctly modelled in a game which everything else is undermodelled). So FM is the issue. So cannons and prop pitch change the FM how again?

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by jojovtx

And these make the FM of the E4 different than the other Emil series? The issue here is flight model over or under modelling. It is known the 2a is overmodelled(or correctly modelled in a game which everything else is undermodelled). So FM is the issue. So cannons and prop pitch change the FM how again?

FM of the Spitfire IIa is NOT an issue for those flying on the Red side; never was, in fact. I've been a strong advocate of having the Spit IIa with its 15 measly seconds of widely dispersed popguns and sputtering carb made available, as it rightly should be, on every RAF airfield. By rights, so the E4 should be available on every LW airfield. The Spit IIa has a bit of an FM advantage; in the right hands the E4 is nearly equal in FM and has a huge firepower advantage.

As it turns out, until the patch sorts all these issues out, the Spitfire IIa and the ME 109 E4 have been temporarily removed from Server #1 since neither side can agree. Server #2, however, may be more to your liking.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

The Spit IIa has a bit of an FM advantage; in the right hands the E4 is nearly equal in FM and has a huge firepower advantage.

Come on, it's a bullxxxx. The FM will remain the same even if the pilot is an idiot. Anyone, who ever fly with 1v1 know, that the IIa far better plane than any other in the game.

I fly on ATAG regularly, the greatest disadvantage of the red side the red pilots (and the lack of situation awareness). Who fly on deck to france, because he regretted the time to climb. Who flying alone because no any teamwork. Who only looks forward, and fly straight, Who just chasing one german, instead of climb, and protecting the others, no matter how many red are front of him. Who climbs without any chance to catch the enemy, but it becomes a perfect target, and so on. They are slaughtered within minutes, no matter what weapons are allowed in the Messerschmitt.

[CaptainDoggles]

The Spit IIa has a bit of an FM advantage;

Don't be misleading. The Spit IIa has the advantage in level speed, climb, and turn.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Don't be misleading. The Spit IIa has the advantage in level speed, climb, and turn.

Don't be misleading yourself. The 109 can bunt into a dive and regain the initiative. Currently the E3 can easily outclimb, outdive, outshoot, and outrun the Hurricane Rotol -- yet you overlooked that, too. The Red pilots don't complain about it; they learn to adapt and fly better as a result.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

If all things are equal when two planes meet, there respective performance will favor the superior flight model but thats a fight that shouldnt be picked imho.

Back on topic: The short answer to why certain plane's are not in server1, because to many people fight about it.