Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by David198502

i mean they arent aware of the dots visibility bug?for how long do we customers complain about that major bug, which really ruins online gaming?
and now we are told we have to wait for the sequel....well another 6 years?

When I read the answer to the ghost dots question I just KNEW it would be misinterpreted. What he means to say here is that the dots issue is part of the old graphics engine and they have not specifically tested the new engine to see if the dots issue persists. Since it is part of the old code that is going away in the new patch it is highly unlikely that this dots problem will continue in the new graphics engine. And NO, we will not have to wait for the sequel, the new patch will include the new graphics engine.

Originally Posted by JG5_emil

This is quite a pointless update. Myself and many others are suffering the Crash/memory leak or what ever it is called.

When will it be fixed??

What is the point having any features if you have no idea if the game is going to run for long enough. I looked forward to those JG27 coops but in each one I crashed having run out of memory and this after spending over £2000 on a new PC and further hundreds of pounds on controls and TIR etc. The game worked fine before the last two betas and now it is unplayable except for a short blast on a dogfight server.

Been patient since the release data and supportive all along but now I have just had enough. Shouldn't we get to play CLOD the way it was meant to be played before a new sim/addon comes out.

Anyone else feel like the BOB is going to get left in the dusk unfinished for ever now?

Um, there is a new patch right around the corner, shouldn't we wait to see if this patch fixes the mem leak before we AssUMe that this will not be fixed until the sequel? Even if the next patch doesn't fix it nowhere is it written that this crash issue will not be looked at and fixed in another patch before the sequel.

Insuber, I don't understand where you, and others, have gotten the impression that there will not be any patches to CloD until the sequel, where did you read that? You must have a better monitor on your PC than I do because I cannot see these hidden words you have apparently seen. The last thing Black Six said is that the patch may have a beta before the end of the year, the release patch will not likely be before the end of the year, and that info was from this frickin week. Relax folks, and learn reading comprehension, if someone says possible beta before December 31st. but not the final patch, that DOES NOT mean there will never ever be a patch as long as we all shall live, I have never seen a blacker bunch of pessimists and doom-sayers in all my days, how you have managed to make it through another day without hanging yourselves in a closet I'll never know....



Edit, I'm at work so I had to type up my reply in between other things so I had not seen lutheirs reply when I posted mine.

[bongodriver]

I have never seen a blacker bunch of pessemists and doom-sayers in all my days, how you have managed to make it through another day without hanging yourselves in a closet I'll never know....

AHMEN to that!!

[theOden]

There's no reading between the lines in this block:

We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels.
For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD.

You will never ever be the serious sim-producer Bohemia Interactive is, obviously.
Saddening bad news in the first post. Really sad.
Good to know though so I guess I should say "Thank you" but there is no smile saying it.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by theOden

You will never ever be the serious sim-producer Bohemia Interactive is, obviously.

What? So let me see if I understand you correctly.. I have ARMA2.. And several versions of it.. The several versions due to the sequels Bohemia put out that made it incompatible with the previous version.. But the if I want to play the previous version I still can

Based on that, it sounds like 1C and Bohemia have the same approach to sequels.. Thus IMHO 1C is as serious as Bohemia when it comes to making games

I love this thread. It appears to be a competition to see who can put the most negative spin possible on the latest update from people who are constantly complaining about the lack of updates.

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

I love this thread. It appears to be a competition to see who can put the most negative spin possible on the latest update from people who are constantly complaining about the lack of updates.

Not really an update to me...more of a dynamic "stall"..imho...

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Not really an update to me...more of a dynamic "stall"..imho...

I know. Your response is one of my favorites.

[BigC208]

It's all good. The game will be patched up to where it's playable for everyone, not just those with top of the line computers. Those that don't want BoM can leave it on the store shelves and still enjoy CloD.

Luthier is praising himself for still working on the game after 7 months. I see that a bit different. As far as I'm concerned we're still in the 7th month of a paid for Beta. I'll regard it the release version when the next patch delivers on the performance increases and bug fix promises. I don't expect a multimillion dollar sim experience for $50. What I do expect is a finished product at some point. If Clod is not playable for all (min box spec) before BoM is released I'll wait with buying untill the reviews are out.

For me personally the sim in it's current state is enjoyable. Even with the messed up comms, the now and then crashes, the gui that sucks, the trees I can fly thru without collision, etc etc. When I get ticked off with some of the things I miss I'll just go play RoF or DCS for a bit. I keep coming back to CloD because there is simply no other WWII combat sim out there that's as immersive and detailed as CloD. When (not if) Luthier's team fixes what needs to be fixed this series will keep us entertained for the next 10 years.

[F19_Klunk]

Originally Posted by BigC208

It's all good. The game will be patched up to where it's playable for everyone, not just those with top of the line computers. Those that don't want BoM can leave it on the store shelves and still enjoy CloD.

Luthier is praising himself for still working on the game after 7 months. I see that a bit different. As far as I'm concerned we're still in the 7th month of a paid for Beta. I'll regard it the release version when the next patch delivers on the performance increases and bug fix promises. I don't expect a multimillion dollar sim experience for $50. What I do expect is a finished product at some point. If Clod is not playable for all (min box spec) before BoM is released I'll wait with buying untill the reviews are out.

For me personally the sim in it's current state is enjoyable. Even with the messed up comms, the now and then crashes, the gui that sucks, the trees I can fly thru without collision, etc etc. When I get ticked off with some of the things I miss I'll just go play RoF or DCS for a bit. I keep coming back to CloD because there is simply no other WWII combat sim out there that's as immersive and detailed as CloD. When (not if) Luthier's team fixes what needs to be fixed this series will keep us entertained for the next 10 years.

Very well put and pretty much the same as I feel. To work on a "half broken" title to make it work properly... even 7 months after release, is the only decent thing that can be done to keep customer and reputation.
I too enjoy clod from time to time now on a very expensive rig (it ran like crap on my old, with lowest gfx setting looking like something from late 1990s), online only with crashes every 40 minutes. It bugs me that it feels so "unfinished" (antialiasing problem for example) when there is so much working for it... the sensation of flying is fantastic.. you can really feel the weight of the planes in contrast to old il2 series. It bugs me because I can see how great this title COULD be.

We will just have to see, Clod could have a contender for beeing THE WWII game in upcoming World of Planes.... they HAVE to succeed with Clod imo... or loose the upperhand that I feel that they still have.

Great to hear from Luthier that the team will continue to work with the issues and that the strategy for upcoming sequels will be the sams as with the "old" IL2 series.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by theOden

There's no reading between the lines in this block:



You will never ever be the serious sim-producer Bohemia Interactive is, obviously.
Saddening bad news in the first post. Really sad.
Good to know though so I guess I should say "Thank you" but there is no smile saying it.

I have no idea what you're talking about, that line was one of the best pieces of news yet. Why spent time and effort releasing patches for CloD when you have just released a game that MERGES with the CloD and you can update the whole thing at once? Hell, Il2 got to where it is based on that model, fanbase wouldn't be nearly as large if we weren't all playing FB+AEP+PF+PE2+SOM+1946 (which is what the 1946 dvd really is, all of those games and expansions combined into one), this is what the future will be for CloD and the Moscow game.