Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[David198502]

bad news for cliffs indeed.
and some answers are really disappointing, as luthier seems not to want to understand.
i mean they arent aware of the dots visibility bug?for how long do we customers complain about that major bug, which really ruins online gaming?
and now we are told we have to wait for the sequel....well another 6 years?

Originally Posted by David198502

bad news for cliffs indeed.
and some answers are really disappointing, as luthier seems not to want to understand.
i mean they arent aware of the dots visibility bug?for how long do we customers complain about that major bug, which really ruins online gaming?
and now we are told we have to wait for the sequel....well another 6 years?

im past considering the BFM project a sequel. Im thinking its what they wanted to release initially before what ever happened, happened.

BFM should by all account be classed as the first of the new IL2`s as was possibly intended.

one thing that would be nice for BFM on its release is a 25% off voucher for IL2 CLOD owners.

and im still hoping CLOD appears in the steam holiday sales. if not i wonder why not ?

[David198502]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

im past considering the BFM project a sequel. Im thinking its what they wanted to release initially before what ever happened, happened.

BFM should by all account be classed as the first of the new IL2`s as was possibly intended.

one thing that would be nice for BFM on its release is a 25% off voucher for IL2 CLOD owners.

and im still hoping CLOD appears in the steam holiday sales. if not i wonder why not ?

well one can only hope that this will be the case.
but we were given so many promises, which turned out to be just blabla, even in the near past.
like background sunlit clouds or the major surprise which should make the competitors squriming.

so i dont really trust them anymore until i see it.we can only hope that the features we were promised in the past for clod will at least be included in BOM.

[klem]

Originally Posted by David198502

bad news for cliffs indeed.
and some answers are really disappointing, as luthier seems not to want to understand.
i mean they arent aware of the dots visibility bug?for how long do we customers complain about that major bug, which really ruins online gaming?
and now we are told we have to wait for the sequel....well another 6 years?

What makes you think we will have to wait for the sequel for the re-written graphics? We have been told already....

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=265

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27926

"The graphics reload has finally reached a sufficiently stable alpha state. Public beta is within reach."

We know there is a problem with that and it has caused a delay of the patch release but I don't recall anyone who knows whats happening in MG saying it won't be released until the sequel.

btw, Q.19 didn't ask about the graphics reload, it asked about the graphics effects (weather etc).

Also answered most clearly in question 15...
"We didn’t get to this yet. The dots are drawn by the part of the graphics code that’s been completely rewritten. We didn’t get to look into this particular issue with the new code yet."

EDIT: My post crossed Luthier's. I think that's what he is saying about "sped up graphics" and "there will be patches".

[Skoshi Tiger]

Thanks for the update B6 and Luthier!

As an aside I had my first sucessfull flight in a Blemhiem 30 minutes ago, Managed to take off AND sink a tanker!

It was fantastic! It gave me a real sense of accomplishment (maybe because flying the beast without cooking the motors is tricky!)

Make sure you have a very happy and safe Christmas and New Year!


Cheers!~\

[FS~Phat]

Hi guys you're of course welcome to voice your opinions and feelings but please be 'mindful' what you say. Posts are being heavily moderated and you may find your posts deleted if they come even close to going over the line and worst case whole threads being locked or deleted and even possibly earning yourself a ban for 24hrs. Constructive comment and criticism is always welcome as long as it doesn't descend to personal attacks, false statements and wildly inaccurate speculation. This thread will be closely watched! You have been warned!

On another note...
Merry Christmas all! This simulation is well on its way to becoming what we all want it to be, and I was one that wasn't very happy with performance from day one, but it is night and day now compared to 9 months ago and the new engine will address the remaining performance issues.

It is what it is as far as the past goes but they have shown they are committed to the series and it's only logical that some features come out in later versions. That is the way this series evolved from Sturmovik to 1946 and Luthier has made it clear this generation of IL2 will be no different.

The beta patch will come out when it's ready. The nature of software development with a major engine rewrite is that things can come up that ruin the best of plans. Once the major rewrite is complete, it is likely it will be easier to release betas in a predictable manner. Please be patient and keep the faith.

People need to move on and stop dragging up the past. We will get the new engine along with other fixes and some new features without buying the sequel. Some features will only be available in the sequel and that is no different than the old series. The GOOD thing is, the new "theatre" features and upgrades are available for earlier theatres of operation.

Please excuse typos sent from my iPad!

[Osprey]

Never in the field of game development was so much whining done by so many to so few. The funny thing is that I don't recognise those people from online play at all - are they even on?

There is no doubt that this is unfinished and I don't think for one minute that there has been any intention of the current 1C team to defraud anybody - THEY wanted to release a great product so please stop implying that you've been robbed. I'm convinced that Luthier and his team are under a great deal of pressure and want to deliver something fantastic in the end. This isn't BF3, they don't have 200 devs and multiple platforms to sell to and they have to meet the demands of perfectionist history nerds (I am one of them too....).

I'm flying this regularly and don't have many crashes, I'd rather not have them but it doesn't detract that much since a lot of the fun is in immersion, the CEM etc, flying with friends. I just don't understand how so many of you with the amazing rigs you show off on the bottom of your signatures can't get some decent entertainment out of it anyway, and for £40 - hours and hours of entertainment - it's CHEAP. The cost of your rig is nothing to do with 1C.


Luthier said they'll patch it, and will also merge the series - that's the news I am interested in. I'll wait for that since there's nothing else I can do - moaning at the devs will just make things worse possibly to the extent of pulling the plug the way some of you carry on.

I'd like 1C to consider the 777 model of buying aircraft - nobody whines at that and it's a more regular income.

As for content, who wants to fly the Defiant? 236 got murdered in a single sortie - why would you want to fly it yourself? Let the computer do it. I'd like to see IL2 opened for 3rd Party though where building maps and ground objects can be added in, then have 1C approve then and add as a patch. Even more so for flyables, with approval from 1C and then get them sold as per the 777 model - I don't see why 3rd parties couldn't take a cut of that development effort.

In the meantime I'll wait for the patch.


PS. According to my sig, it looks like Titus won't have to eat those chillis and post on you tube after all

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Never in the field of game development was so much whining done by so many to so few. The funny thing is that I don't recognise those people from online play at all - are they even on?

There is no doubt that this is unfinished and I don't think for one minute that there has been any intention of the current 1C team to defraud anybody - THEY wanted to release a great product so please stop implying that you've been robbed. I'm convinced that Luthier and his team are under a great deal of pressure and want to deliver something fantastic in the end. This isn't BF3, they don't have 200 devs and multiple platforms to sell to and they have to meet the demands of perfectionist history nerds (I am one of them too....).

I'm flying this regularly and don't have many crashes, I'd rather not have them but it doesn't detract that much since a lot of the fun is in immersion, the CEM etc, flying with friends. I just don't understand how so many of you with the amazing rigs you show off on the bottom of your signatures can't get some decent entertainment out of it anyway, and for £40 - hours and hours of entertainment - it's CHEAP. The cost of your rig is nothing to do with 1C.


Luthier said they'll patch it, and will also merge the series - that's the news I am interested in. I'll wait for that since there's nothing else I can do - moaning at the devs will just make things worse possibly to the extent of pulling the plug the way some of you carry on.

I'd like 1C to consider the 777 model of buying aircraft - nobody whines at that and it's a more regular income.

As for content, who wants to fly the Defiant? 236 got murdered in a single sortie - why would you want to fly it yourself? Let the computer do it. I'd like to see IL2 opened for 3rd Party though where building maps and ground objects can be added in, then have 1C approve then and add as a patch. Even more so for flyables, with approval from 1C and then get them sold as per the 777 model - I don't see why 3rd parties couldn't take a cut of that development effort.

In the meantime I'll wait for the patch.


PS. According to my sig, it looks like Titus won't have to eat those chillis and post on you tube after all

I'd love to play online more, but since i suffer from this bug,

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27322

like quite a few others, having to restart the game after every nearly every bloody flight gets to be a pita. When this stops happening, i'll pick the game up much more.

So i stick to something that works, il2 and RoF, and that my squadmates fly, because many of them haven't got rigs that can fly Clod yet, because of real life commitments don't allow everyone to have a monster rig for CloD.

Plus dogfight servers haven't interested me since @2005, although i am following the user made work around for co-ops with interest.

[TomcatViP]

I'll be whining (even) more heavily if the 777 model is applied with paying addon for extra "planes" with stupid FM à la Marvel.

No, No and no !!!

keep the crap out of CoD.

Regarding the Def : I'll be happy to fly her.

[klem]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

I'd love to play online more, but since i suffer from this bug,

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27322

like quite a few others, having to restart the game after every nearly every bloody flight gets to be a pita. When this stops happening, i'll pick the game up much more.

So i stick to something that works, il2 and RoF, and that my squadmates fly, because many of them haven't got rigs that can fly Clod yet, because of real life commitments don't allow everyone to have a monster rig for CloD.

Plus dogfight servers haven't interested me since @2005, although i am following the user made work around for co-ops with interest.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...3&postcount=31