Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-23-2011, 01:42 PM
Dano Dano is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Petersfield UK
Posts: 1,107
Default

The only truth that needs to be understood is that it takes finances to create what was mooted for release, regardless of what should or could have been we are where we are and without said finance you're going to get squat, take it or leave it, no point whatsoever in going around this one again.
__________________
i5 2500k - Asus P8P67Pro - Crucial M4 64GB - 8GB DDR3 - Geforce Ti 560 1GB - Xonar DG - W7 X64 SP1
  #2  
Old 12-23-2011, 01:46 PM
David198502's Avatar
David198502 David198502 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Austria
Posts: 1,536
Default

how long do you guys think will it take to complete BOM?
cause as it sounds, they are redoing everything...so will it take another 6years?
__________________
  #3  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:01 PM
Ali Fish
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David198502 View Post
how long do you guys think will it take to complete BOM?
cause as it sounds, they are redoing everything...so will it take another 6years?
ok best estimate (with knowledge and considering recent history)

through (lets say) "repairing" CLOD it leaves content as the key aspect of BFM. with this in mind and given all possibly that could go wrong. 2 years very max and thats conservative estimate.

However it depends how they are going about there business, of which only they can inform.

i forsee the major overhaul for CLOD appearing within 6-12 months. and leaving various months there after to create new content with BFM in mind. (i believe much content has already been made though) ofcourse im probally wrong.

Last edited by Ali Fish; 12-23-2011 at 02:03 PM.
  #4  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:05 PM
addman's Avatar
addman addman is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vasa, Finland
Posts: 1,593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Fish View Post
ok best estimate (with knowledge and considering recent history)

through (lets say) repairing CLOD it leaves content as the key aspect of BFM. with this in mind and given all possibly that could go wrong. 2 years very max and thats conservative estimate.

However it depends how they are going about there business, of which only they can inform.

i forsee the major overhaul for CLOD appearing within 6-12 months. and leaving various months there after to create new content with BFM in mind. ofcourse im probally wrong.
They can't possibly have the funds for 2 years more of development for BoM. Few game developers have that kind of luxury these days, especially smaller niche ones like MG. I'd say BoM will be released next summer if they don't dry up on pesetas first, in what state/form will it be released? I don't think anyone knows yet. Let's just hope it will come out better than CloD did.
__________________
  #5  
Old 12-23-2011, 01:59 PM
addman's Avatar
addman addman is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vasa, Finland
Posts: 1,593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dano View Post
The only truth that needs to be understood is that it takes finances to create what was mooted for release, regardless of what should or could have been we are where we are and without said finance you're going to get squat, take it or leave it, no point whatsoever in going around this one again.
(the following comment(s) can be disregarded if we get a free patch for CloD)

That's fine and all but I don't see why we have to pay more, we've paid for CloD and that's that. If that wasn't enough, then why didn't they sell us CloD for like 80€ instead? oh, I guess even MG didn't have the stomach to charge that much for an unfinished game, oh snap!
__________________
  #6  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:04 PM
Dano Dano is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Petersfield UK
Posts: 1,107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by addman View Post
(the following comment(s) can be disregarded if we get a free patch for CloD)

That's fine and all but I don't see why we have to pay more, we've paid for CloD and that's that. If that wasn't enough, then why didn't they sell us CloD for like 80€ instead? oh, I guess even MG didn't have the stomach to charge that much for an unfinished game, oh snap!
I'll say it again in the hope that you understand it this time... regardless of what should or could have been we are where we are.
__________________
i5 2500k - Asus P8P67Pro - Crucial M4 64GB - 8GB DDR3 - Geforce Ti 560 1GB - Xonar DG - W7 X64 SP1
  #7  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:09 PM
addman's Avatar
addman addman is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vasa, Finland
Posts: 1,593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dano View Post
I'll say it again in the hope that you understand it this time... regardless of what should or could have been we are where we are.
I understood what you said perfectly, I just expressed my opinion -or amazement rather- of the situation. Also, if we still get the free patch for CloD (nothing else have been said yet) I'm a happy camper.
__________________
  #8  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Pudfark Pudfark is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 363
Default

Maskirovka....pure and simple.
  #9  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:09 PM
Ali Fish
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by addman View Post
(the following comment(s) can be disregarded if we get a free patch for CloD)

That's fine and all but I don't see why we have to pay more, we've paid for CloD and that's that. If that wasn't enough, then why didn't they sell us CloD for like 80€ instead? oh, I guess even MG didn't have the stomach to charge that much for an unfinished game, oh snap!
dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that. in essence anything could have happened there however bizzare in appearance or explanation of which there is none off. so it leaves us with bizzare.

we can all agree that its all very bizzare cant we. there after its just our belief system that is kicking in to no effect as it does not provide facts or answers of any form.

anyway heres my belief. sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate and with the name of IL2™ (a guaranteed money generator) i think a deal was struck to get the CLOD on the shelves before the end of that fiscal year as ubisoft were quite literally screwed. i believe a deal was made to continue funding the development. i believe that ubisoft thought they could claw back somthing from the situation for there benefit of that fiscal year. the end result was a mess that we payed for.(ubisoft to blame explicitly) i believe oleg had to go because in reality he got in the way of too many parties intentions by the afore said belief of mine. by parties i mean 1c ,developers, and ubisoft. the result is a mess, but there is a fix seemingly, and its as clear cut and simple as that. but ill say again our belief systems bark us up the wrong path everyday, we are cursed with it in reality. iam no biggot and i do try employ critical thinking where possible. and sorry if i have barked up the wrong tree.

Last edited by Ali Fish; 12-23-2011 at 02:25 PM.
  #10  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:12 PM
addman's Avatar
addman addman is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vasa, Finland
Posts: 1,593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Fish View Post
dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that.
You are most likely correct in your assertions. There's probably a very big picture behind all of this that is for 1c, Ubisoft and MG eyes only. Ubisoft is a money making business just like every other publisher/developer. If they didn't see any money in CloD and it's eventual sequels then it wouldn't have existed, same goes for 1c.
__________________
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.