New Mod Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Babies!

[MattCaspermeyer]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

6) about rina`s kids, every give min 3% lds for all undead, so with 4 kids, and her 6%, +necromancy it = minimum 33%, without partial lds bonus form each kid, and without glory skill. That`s worst case scenario, in best you could 2*9+14+6(kids)+6(rina)+15(necromancy)+10glory= wait for it ... 69% lds reduction for whole undead race. With all stats bonus from kids/rina and imagine warrior with some 20k lds, with that army (skeleton archer=5lds or less).

Yah, but you're ignoring probability once again. Look up the chance of getting that in my previous post - you will most likely never see it!

I'm going to hammer you on this - probability, probability, probability! It is irrelevant to talk about the max since is highly improbable. If you can't get past this, then you're going to keep tripping over max. I hope you don't play the lottery and think that your 1$ investment means you're going to win 10's of millions of dollars, but that's the argument you're trying to make. It could happen, but it is so improbable that why not let someone enjoy their win?

Now the norm is something to talk about and that is why I'm considering the skill changes so that with Rina's kids you'll usually see somewhere between -18 to -24% LR to Undead. Glory no longer will apply and then Necromancers and Skeleton Archers will still get -20% due to the Ranged Specialist / Archmage and Necromancy. So those units could get a really good bonus of -44% which is pretty good and then you could get Galthran or Moandor for even better LR: -70% for Skeleton Archers and -55% for Necromancers both incredibly awesome and maybe too high.

Now if we focus on either case, which is 1 out of 19 plays then we can consider making a change on this basis.

I have actually thought about Rina's (and all the wives for that matter) children -LR bonuses a lot and have often considered reducing it more. You're tipping me more towards a change to her, but I'll think about it some more.

One other thing I want to point out is that -Leadership Requirements can be offset by other bonuses so don't be so enamored with it.

I encourage you to keep trying to find stuff like this as there are many permutations and I've tried to think of most of them and the important point is to determine their probability and then play it and see how it really pans out!

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Maybe i think still in CW/AP mod, because there is late game everything % better then absolute value : 1000lds is sick bonus early game, but later when hero have 20k+ lds 10% for undead(or any other) race is much better because it`s equal to 2000+ lds at that time much better then. I`ll try to see what happens, because i took rina and we are waiting for our first little undead toddler to come along

Yah, but you're only most likely talking about a Warrior, but remember he will probably only be able to get one spell school to Level 3 (especially if you're going to shoot for Necromancy Level 3). So he's going to need extra units and you may not be able to resurrect as many because of your lower intellect. So he probably needs the -LR stuff the most.

Don't forget that you can't change Rina into a Zombie while your waiting for your first child (or any children for that matter). Same goes with Feanora and Frog Feanora, the battle counter for children only increases while you're in their normal form. After you have all the babies that you want to have for those wives then you can transform them (or in Feanora's case you have to not talk to her for 10 battles to get her to transform).

Can't wait to hear how it goes for you and Rina! By the way, are you playing Warrior on Impossible? Or let me know which hero class and difficulty level you're playing.

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Feanora : kid_young_sandro i didnt mean mistake, just he gives lds for undead, and she`s nature creature, bonus for neutrals and some human unit. It doesn`t feel right.

Yah, unfortunately to stay true to Young Sandro I can't change his skills so his Necromancy Skill is still there. I don't think it's too much of a stretch for Feanora to have a baby that dabbles in the Undead - she does come from a swamp you know and you know how those swamp kids like to hang out with zombies!

Mom? Guess who's coming to dinner? My friend, Noric!

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

kid_voy i thought to move him to mirabella because all his sea stats bonus, mirabella=pirate, no other reason.

Yah, I figured that - it is natural, but as it turns out Mirabella has a daughter, Sylvia, with the same HOMM3 Advanced Navigaion bonus as Voy. There other skill is different, though.

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Mirabella : kid_aislinn have this string in mod{} sp_kid_aislinn=count,1 What does it do ?

I think you mean Rina's Aislinn? I mentioned this in my *.TXT file change list, but there is a bug where I can't determine if a child was on the hero apparently so I needed that bonus so that I can display her Evil Book bonus properly in your spell book. I'd like to actually query whether the child is "equipped", but when I played with it, I couldn't get it to work so I resorted to using a bonus.

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

7) about that i just thought to have 1 kid give bonus magic dmg/res and other poison dmg/res, not mix them up.
sp_power_inc=
sp_power_mod= nice idea, thx for info.

Ok so far that`s it, i`ll report if find anything else take care ppl

There are plenty of children that give the same damage / resistance bonus - the other PlanesWalker babies! Kalt and Lacus are the only two that are the way you saw them because of the reason I specified.

Well, thanks again for your comments!

Also, do me a favor and check to see whether you can Resurrect the Undead with the Resurrection Spell + Necromancy Skill Level 1. I have not gotten around to testing this out and so it may not work! Don't forget that it will still have the same level requirement restrictions: Level 1 - Units Level 1-2, Level 2, Units Level 1-3, and Level 3 - Units Level 1-4.

I'm also going to make the skill changes like I mentioned in the previous post and I'll think more about the Wife + Baby -Leadership Requirement bonuses some more as this is an area that I've given a lot of thought to and I find that I return to it to question whether or not the bonus values are right from time to time.

Keep questioning what I'm doing, too, as that's the only way to help me think outside the box I've made!

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