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[ZaltysZ]

Auto works fine for me. However, I always take off on manual, and engage auto only at max throttle and max permissible RPM. If I engage it earlier, it simply sticks later.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

Excellent idea!

@Krupi: Krupi, old bean, when you're done with that would you mind doing the same with the Spitfires 1 & 1a, and perhaps the two Hurri models as well? Might as well throw in the Spit 11a so we can see how over modelled THAT is. We'll have a bottle of claret (or what's left of it) waiting for you in the mess -- the rest of us will have long headed for bed............

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

And I shall try to remember not to finish off this passable bottle of red wine.......

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

In my tests as I suggested:

"How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...6&postcount=57

I get the exact same end game speed whether in AUTO or Manual. 440-450Kmh IAS.

There is NO way I can get 50Kmh better in manual.

What you obviously can do in manual is set up your own ATA/RPM combinations that might be beneficial in say a 1.25ATA climb. AUTO at 1.25ATA throttle position will give you 2100RPM where you might do better manually selecting 2300RPM. Personally I use MANUAL for any long term type situations with less than max throttle position. In Combat or any time I have full throttle AUTO.

RPM is tied to throttle position NOT ATA. Below FTH ATA is also directly proportional to throttle position.

[JG52Krupi]

I will do it tonight didnt get the chance last night.

P.s. I'm sure some can get ~500kmh out of a 109 buts it's quite hard.

Also who flies with rads full open!!!! I will just do it with the rad settings I always use.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by IvanK

In my tests as I suggested:

"How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...6&postcount=57

I get the exact same end game speed whether in AUTO or Manual. 440-450Kmh IAS.

There is NO way I can get 50Kmh better in manual.

What you obviously can do in manual is set up your own ATA/RPM combinations that might be beneficial in say a 1.25ATA climb. AUTO at 1.25ATA throttle position will give you 2100RPM where you might do better manually selecting 2300RPM. Personally I use MANUAL for any long term type situations with less than max throttle position. In Combat or any time I have full throttle AUTO.

RPM is tied to throttle position NOT ATA. Below FTH ATA is also directly proportional to throttle position.

Good test, thanks. So AUTO PP doesn't handicap the top speed, as it should be.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Insuber

My God, another unknown genius. Did you test that, or it's just your general impression? And how that relates with the historical data? I'm eager to learn from you.

I did try the e4 enough to know the auto pitch is not exactly the way to get most out of your aircraft. Just like other people posted, I also flew alongside players that were using auto and the difference is very noticeable.
While this may not be historically accurate, the fact remains. You didn't fly the E4 to it's "in game" potential.

[ElAurens]

Insuber, no disrespect, but there are a lot of people who are really good at IL2 and CLOD who never post here, and whose names you don't know.

In fact I'd go so far as to say that most of the best virtual pilots could care less what we say and do here. They just fire up the game and get on with it as best they can. They take the tool they are given and make the most of it and leave the whining about historical data and outcomes to the chart monkeys.

And I'm not saying that I don't care about historic accuracy, I most certainly do. But that stays here. When online you just have to do the best you can with what you have.