Why does luthier even bother?

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

whataver makes you happy in your "back peddling rant"

take a pill....gbye

[ACE-OF-ACES]

or smoke a cig?

[Flanker35M]

S!

I've seen AoA around for a while in several forums so not a so new guy to IL-2 series I bet But anyways..I think all agree that we could focus more on helping Luthier and his team by providing well compiled information what does not work or could use an improvement rather than insulting each other at every turn and turn threads to a flame fest. After all we ALL want that CoD would be THE sim for years to come as IL-2 was and still is. My .02€..over and out to test.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

I've seen AoA around for a while in several forums so not a so new guy to IL-2 series I bet

Bet!

[BadAim]

What a freaking zoo. I'm sure there is some useful information somewhere in this forum, I just can't find it for all of the pissing and moaning, not the least of which is all the pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning, then everyone gets there feelings hurt and have to argue about that endlessly. C'mon people, act like adults for five minutes.

We're trying to help a developer fix a mess that was not caused my him here. Otherwise there is no reason to download a beta patch to begin with, much less complain about it.

As for the state of the game on release, that is old, old news. I for one am sick of hearing about it already, we know all about it. Can we just stop burying all of the useful info with sniveling?

I'll never get that two minutes back.......

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by BadAim

What a freaking zoo. I'm sure there is some useful information somewhere in this forum, I just can't find it for all of the pissing and moaning, not the least of which is all the pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning, then everyone gets there feelings hurt and have to argue about that endlessly. C'mon people, act like adults for five minutes.

We're trying to help a developer fix a mess that was not caused my him here. Otherwise there is no reason to download a beta patch to begin with, much less complain about it.

As for the state of the game on release, that is old, old news. I for one am sick of hearing about it already, we know all about it. Can we just stop burying all of the useful info with sniveling?

I'll never get that two minutes back.......

+1

Last night I emailed Luthier (per his request to all of us) a zipped .cpp file re two PC crashes I experienced with this latest beta, along with my system specs and a description of what I was doing in CoD when the crashes occurred. I'm sure many others did the same. This a.m. we were greeted with a Hotfix patch and I like to think in some way our contributions helped the devs with this quick fix.

And you're right. I've been waiting for Storm of War/Cliffs of Dover as long as anyone. I certainly feel the frustration of having a long-awaited sim released in a broken, unfinished state. But we all want it fixed and for that to happen cooler heads must prevail. Egos and hurt feelings must be set aside and, as a sim community, help the devs in the most effective way possible: use the vast range of our PC machines to run the beta and retail patches to report, in useful detail, what works and what doesn't.

For those who understandably feel that their precious $50 was taken under false pretenses -- you're right; it sucks! But as in life itself, if you want "fair" then go see your mama. Put the sim away and wait for the ultimate fix. But stop clogging these beta threads with whining and snide backbiting. To achieve the goal of a fixed Cliffs of Dover we need forum members who will either take the lead or follow a procedure, but at least get the he11 out of the way.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Snapper

For those who understandably feel that their precious $50 was taken under false pretenses -- you're right; it sucks! But as in life itself, if you want "fair" then go see your mama.

Bingo!

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Bingo!

It was either that, or "Suck it up, Muffin!" LOL

(and, yeah, I'm putting on my flame-retardant suit.......)

Credit where its due, Luthier as managed to get the ACE OF ACES licking his butt, which intrests me more than the game at the moment.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Thanks Tree..

That 5th grade play ground butt licking responce not only confirmed my inital post.. but made me feel young again.. In that I have not heard such banter since the 5th grade! S!