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[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Archie

I have read a few of the threads here now,and you zapitista are by far the most abusive member on this forum. i completely dis agree wit the hack,but you do your argument no favors with your abusiv posts.

i am quite able to discuss things in a normal civilized manner when that is the level of communication that is happening.

but that is not the case here, it is a small group of hack kiddies who are deliberately advertising the hacks in olegs own forum, and after initially pretending it wasnt possible to use them online, they now quite openly say they dont mind ruining the sim for the rest of us.

so lets not pretend it is rain falling on your boots

[Archie]

What is 'rain faling on my boots mean?

[JG52Uther]

So zapatista,if you are so anti mod,you will be taking part in the anti cheat trials going on at ubi just now? Strange,I don't see your name there.What name are you using at ubi? And you seem to spend a lot of time at the mod forum,and know a lot about how to cheat in il2 so what name do you go under there? Something to hide?
Yes I have 1 other log in name,with one post to its credit.If Evgeny doesn't like it,I will provide him with the name and he can delete it.
And actually,I did say that I was leaving this useless trouble stirring thread,so again:
Bye bye.
zapatista The thread was nearly off the front page so just keep bumping it occasionally with some more bile and insults.Thanks.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Archie

What is 'rain faling on my boots mean?

Archie, maby he is slightly less than civil ( i know i was), but thats propably becaus he, like i, are completly fed up with people incapeble of simple 3:rd grade reasoning. Fed up with debating with people who can only see right from wrong if they themselfes gain something from it.

Personally i just stoped arguing with some of those people.


And some people (id bet there are only 2-3 modfriends in here with a gazillion personas shared between them) who by theire own admittens uses several login names is in no way shape or form in the position to judge anybody just because he dissegrees with him.

Maby thats what some of us are fed up with, people who dont know when to shut up..and think before they post instead of just rembling on and on.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

i am quite able to discuss things in a normal civilized manner when that is the level of communication that is happening.

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it - rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

Come on - is it not hard to see people, that continuing to debate this bloody mod cr@p is no more than promotion in and of itself???

It would seem that the 'hack-kiddies' arent the only 'spotted faced teenagers' sitting behind their computer screens in their bedrooms acting immature...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it -

sure, great idea, and lets just see how long civilized communication will last

Originally Posted by Razer

rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

ahh you didnt even last a single paragraph before you started adding insults yourself, what a surprise.

so what do you think will happen now ? if some act like juveniles and get rude and offensive they shouldnt complain when they get a spraying back.

Originally Posted by Razer

Come on - is it not hard to see people, that continuing to debate this bloody mod cr@p is no more than promotion in and of itself???

yep, and the hack kiddie bunch should all be banned from here, and any discussion of the hacks locked out. trying to compromise by having some discussion on it allowed is counter productive because of the blatantly selfish vandalism that motivates the hack supporters.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

yep, and the hack kiddie bunch should all be banned from here, and any discussion of the hacks locked out. trying to compromise by having some discussion on it allowed is counter productive because of the blatantly selfish vandalism that motivates the hack supporters.

Yet you keep it going...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

Yet you keep it going..:

the most sensible statement on that was made by ivan, who somewhere at the start of the 2 threads on mods suggested that the only positive spin on the hack issue could be made by giving some examples of how the sim can actually be improved with some of the edits.

some good examples of this would be the new flames from aircraft exhausts,new landing gear noise, new reflections and "shine" on skins, new fire and smoke effects, the new maps like okinawa etc.. some of these could be minor changes that can improve the game if they were added to minor patches. in theory there is a lot of talent available of people that have the interest and time to make positive contributions and then one of olegs programmers could spend a single hr of his time to briefly check those modifications for bugs, and then include them in a future patch.

the problem however is that it is not a choice of having our current il2 "and" simply adding some improvements, but it is "either" having the original il2 OR loosing all online full real competitive use of this sim after 5 years. locking il2 again for fair online use is not a simple act, it is complex and takes significant man hour time and effort, and it might not even be possible anymore so we will be stuck with total online anarchy for the next 12 months while we wait for BoB. and it is not for jasonvision or stalkerbirder (pun intended) to decide for the rest of the online il2 community how they can use their sim online.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

sure, great idea, and lets just see how long civilized communication will last

ahh you didnt even last a single paragraph before you started adding insults yourself, what a surprise.

so what do you think will happen now ? if some act like juveniles and get rude and offensive they shouldnt complain when they get a spraying back.

Now Zapatista, first off - it wasnt an insult at you... directly. If anything - it is at all those who are continuating this stupid, irrelevant thread!

Secondly, you arent a Moderator - so stop trying to police everything to do with the mod's...

In addition, I think I should clarify for YOU that I am neither pro nor anti mod's.

Step back from your little soap box, and think for a moment: What good are you even VAGUELY doing? None - mearly exasperating the situation further.

Pro-mod, or anti-mod - it doesnt matter - as the fact is well and truely MUTE; the mods/hacks are there - they arent going nowhere.

Calling for all 'pro-modders' to be banned is pathetic, juvenile, and unrealistic.

Simply put: GET OVER IT. Its old news, and no matter how much moaning, pointing, or name calling - they arent going to just pack up shop and run away.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

Now Zapatista, first off - it wasnt an insult at you... directly. If anything - it is at all those who are continuating this stupid, irrelevant thread!

then you should read what you type before pressing the submit button, because it is exactly what you previously did.

Originally Posted by Razer

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it - rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

i'd say there is no confusion possible there with your insult being directed at me, even if prior to that there had been no negativity on my part directed at you personally to justify it. raise your self awareness if you are going to try and communicate with others in a meaningful manner.