Suddenly Spit IIa on all the servers?

Just make up a server with the proposed planeset and see if ppl will like it or not.

I for my part see two kinds of people writing here in this thread:

- Those who don't want to have the things changed either because they are happy that all planes except the Spit 2a are underpowered. They are in favour of having the Spit 2a everywhere where it is like a 1942 plane in a 1940 year war. My guess is, Madfish, that you belong to this group, or you did not read the thread or you just don't have a clue what the thread is about.

- Those who recognize that the FMs are flawed creating an unhistoric imbalance. Madfish: Take note: unhistoric imbalance. Because in case you might have missed it the thread is not about historic imbalance.

The cause for this thread is because all planes except the Spit 2a are underpowered considering historic values. There is nothing to discuss here.

So just fix the FM to give all planes historic performance and basta.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

Those who recognize that the FMs are flawed creating an unhistoric imbalance. Madfish:

The cause for this thread is because all planes except the Spit 2a are underpowered considering historic values. There is nothing to discuss here.

So just fix the FM to give all planes historic performance and basta.

My disagreement is with the SpitMk1 v The Hurricane as currently modelled. Their relative performce and specs are reversed for the time period, Im in the group above but think it merits discussion.

Leave the Mk2 out by all means but at least have the performance of the remaining Allied fighters suited to their roles and corrected relative to the BFs as currently modelled! In other words - fix the two that are wrong initially.

My disagreements goes: I just want ALL aircraft have their correct historic performance. If this is achieved the relative performance of each plane will be correct automatically. This includes the Hurricanes, the Spit 1, the Spit 1a (that should have CS), the Fiat G50 and the 109s. I don't know about the twin engine planes and the stuka.

[ElAurens]

Two points here:

1. The performance numbers of most of the aircraft in the sim are simply wrong and need to be fixed. We all can agree on that. (I hope).

2. Historical combat outcomes can never be acheived in combat flight simulation. I have taken part in a couple of online campaigns that were very well crafted to simulate the war in North Africa, and the campaign over New Guinea. Correct plane sets as far as possible, correct bases as far as possible, correct numbers of available types, supply issues, etc... And not one time did the historic outcome from WW2 happen. Why? Because we are human beings and we adapt to the mistakes made in the past. We know what each side did correctly or incorrectly in the real deal, and we will not follow blindly the tactics that led to failure. We are not historic re-inactors. We are competetive and we want to win, regardles of what we say here.

So please stop using how the real campaign over England (or any other theatre) played out as justification for aircraft performance. It has nothing to do with it.

[JG53Frankyboy]

very well said !