Post made by Jason at Sim HQ

Originally Posted by zapatista

even a dead clock is right twice each day, after your 1700 posts here deliberately sprouting negative crap for years the odds are you eventually would say something that per chance would have been partially right !! obviously that doesnt validate all the other nonsense you posted here for years, or did you think it magically would and you'r now lilly white ? its also somewhat disturbing to see you only perk up when something negative is being said, it seems to be the only thing you ever feed on and rejoice about



no tree it doesnt, you'r again jumping to all kinds of conclusions and sprouting nonsense about facts you dont comprehend and new information you dont seem able to interpret.

jason's post has to be seen for what it is, he is somebody who (since recently) does have a commercial interest in the CoD project and he is in that context minimizing blame for luthier while dancing on oleg's grave and shifting all the blame to oleg (while oleg isnt present to defend himself, great sign of character there jason)

what is new (to me at least, and i have been out of the loop a bit while waiting for a decent fix/update to start using CoD), is the 8 million dollar CoD project funding figure over the 7 years. the rest of what jason says is entirely his spin on facts that are incomplete and open to interpretation.

for example, jason refers to luthier being handed the unfinished project 1 yr before release, which takes us to the point in mid 2009 when oleg was still posting here and him stating he had a fixed release date of "the anniversary of BoB" (which would have meant november 2010, and oleg 6 months before that date realizing it simply could not be done). the project then slipped pasted this nov/dec 2010 date and was then released early in 2011 (you must remember some of those dates, its when you kept weaseling out of puting your money where your mouth was ).

so when ubi (and/or 1c) put their foot down and said "no more delays, you have 1 yr and then its out the door", how did oleg react ? that is the real question. (its a minor issue whether oleg by then was still 5 days per week in the office managing it, or had taken on an additional part time positions with some other company as a consultant, since he by then was only macro managing the CoD project itself).

given olegs very good track record (in game creation and project management) he likely would have known that this forced early release date wasnt realistic, so did he tell them "either i do it right and i need more time", or if they tried to then force his hand "you do it without me" ? likely some years will go by before we find out, but that is much more likely then jason's recent spin story.

another piece of the puzzle we are missing is what exactly happened mid development that caused the lost 2 or 3 years which became the Achilles heel in this whole CoD project ? time wise this is the period we know oleg fired some people, or some left on their own (taking part of the code ?) and the RoF project was started. are all those facts linked, its all speculation at this stage, but those missing years caused the whole delay mess that landed us where we are now.

secondly, with luthier being oleg's trusted sidekick during il2 development (since pacific fighters or even earlier ?) and with the 2 being close friends, AND with luthier being called away from his own project (korea) to help finish CoD a couple of years ago....... with oleg suddenly leaving, luthier would have been about the only logical person the project could have been transferred to (inside their existing team). now the question that arises is, knowing the various good skills and contributions luthier has made to the il2 series, did/does luthier have the project management skills to pull of what oleg knew could not be done to oleg's exacting levels of quality ?

luthier took on an unthankful task to try and finish it, and tried to do so under very difficult circumstances no doubt, but, and how can i say this gently.... he didn not success, its a giant mess.

so nothing new has been provided in that simhq thread that lowers my opinion of Oleg, if anything it only lowers my opinion of jason with his obvious spinning to direct attention away from his own commercial interests (without giving solid facts that can be verified with the people that matter). And no that doesn’t make Jason the anti-christ either, it just means I take what he posts with a decent serve of salt and I see it for what it is

i do wish luthier well in trying to finish the project (he is our only hope, failing oleg coming back to pitch in), and whatever positive input that can be given him should be provided, but it doesnt remove our frustration (as customers and long term fans who had very high hopes for this project)

Not had time to read all that Bollocks yet Zap, but have you actually purchased the game yet, and how did those shorts taste, you know the ones you were going to eat when you lost that bet with me??


have a nice day buddy.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Not had time to read all that Bollocks yet Zap, but have you actually purchased the game yet, and how did those shorts taste, you know the ones you were going to eat when you lost that bet with me??


have a nice day buddy.

Obnoxious.

Here we go with the I told you so. Pathetic, backhanded, self justification.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Not had time to read all that Bollocks yet Zap, but have you actually purchased the game yet, and how did those shorts taste, you know the ones you were going to eat when you lost that bet with me??

lol, liar liar, pants on fire

as you well remember, after you repeatedly posting negative pessimistic release date forecasts for years, you made the mistake of actually stating a specific date 1 year into the future, at which point you were called out on it by me to put your money where your mouth was (easy to see, its in the forum records)

you know, thats when your spine turned to jelly, and you slithered away babeling some meaningless banter to try and distract from the fact you couldnt standup when it was time to be counted

even funnier is that you behaved repeatedly in the same manner in this forum, and that the last time you were called out on it your forecast was "not before august 2011"

so save your excrement fixated meaningless banter for your spotty faced chums

ps: maybe bring in one of your alt nicks to make a meaningless post pretending to agree with yourself, some newbies here havnt seen the whole tree-show yet

oh, no offence of course, all in good jest, but all true nevertheless