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08-25-2011, 09:35 AM
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08-25-2011, 09:48 AM
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Well, like everything else in life, people have different priorities, expectations and amount of leeway given when a flight sim is concerned.
I expected somewhat improved graphics, a next generation DM, some form of aircraft systems management and the hooks in the engine to let people in the community contribute in ways that were not possible up till now. Check the dynamic and scripted campaigns some of the forum members have been releasing to see what i mean: there's a new campaign posted that features aircraft replacement tracking on a squadron level, custom-made scoring system, awards and promotions and clearing the scoreboard if your pilot is killed to simulate flying with a new pilot without having the player choose between restarting it or hitting "refly" until they succeed. In return for those ambitious leaps forward and considering the size of and funding available to the development team, i also expected to get release troubles, bugs, poorly documented features that are not working 100% correctly, performance, stability and optimization issues and cutting corners in terms of stuff that can be added later without a major rerwite of the entire engine, because somewhere, something's always got to give. What i certainly didn't expect, didn't want and even opposed with a passion during the development phase was for them to keep strictly to an old formula just because it worked in the past. That would be a lack of ambition and desire to move forward. IL2 worked, but i didn't want CoD to simply be IL2 with a facelift, like an old girlfriend with a new lipstick. I wanted cool new stuff and features built for longevity under the hood, even at the cost of having to learn how to use them from scratch and having features that were considered standard not being up to spec for the short term, because i'm sure that if something is considered standard for them based on what they previously delivered, they can do it again at a later date. What they wouldn't be able to do would be to plug a new CEM module and the entire coding interface that lets users create complex campaigns with their own interface and custom made conditions to an engine that wasn't built from scratch to support these things, at least not without a major recoding effort. And i got exactly what i expected  If anything, the main thing the development team would be most guilty of would be biting off more than they could comfortably chew with their given manpower and resources. Well, i admire that because it's the people with a crazy vision that take things forward most of the time, not the armies of drones who rehash someone else's or even their own successful past recipes ad infinitum. If people have different preferences to mine and would prefer a rehash of the old recipe that's just fine, it's a matter of opinion after all. However, if they can't even see what's good about the new recipe, it's simply because they are too bored to look under the wrapping, lack the imagination to see what the new features bring to the table in the long run or just plain being spiteful that they didn't get their way. That is something i can't help them with and i don't care to change their minds. I just can't allow myself to be convinced that the sim is no good at all, no less by people who can only perceive a fraction of what others and myself have seen: if a colorblind person comes up to me and starts lecturing me on the colours of the rainbow i won't chase him off kicking and swearing, but i'm not going to let him harp on ad nauseum about how he's right, i'm wrong and i should start seeing things his way, something which is practically impossible after all because he's colorblind and i'm not
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08-25-2011, 09:56 AM
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Yes... the old IL2. I'm giving another chance to CloD until the new patch. Anyway I agree with the article. Of course the guy is talking only about "a problem": he has not talked about the game design and the project management, that are the things that I'm frustated about.
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08-25-2011, 11:18 AM
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so... Yes he would def buy CoD Last edited by Ze-Jamz; 08-25-2011 at 11:20 AM.
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08-25-2011, 11:20 AM
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The article would have had relevance if it had been posted four months ago, but now? It said nothing that hasn't been said a thousand times before. It's a bit pointless really.
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08-25-2011, 11:22 AM
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08-25-2011, 11:55 AM
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Maybe we'll get lucky and Jason Williams will buy MG too. Must be a lot cheaper than it was this time last year.
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08-25-2011, 12:21 PM
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Can people stop using the word "potential" in the context of this game? Stop saying that word and plz notify me instead when the game is finished, I'll keep on playing DCS: A-10C in the meantime, taah!
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08-25-2011, 12:46 PM
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 And if he does still he would not fly with us: in these weeks we fly modded IL2, Condor and RoF. I agree that CEM is great, DM seems a lot better (but which are the numbers inserted in the DM model? IIRC We have a PP 3x slower than the real one and "inverted" of course... are DM really "right"? I didn't trust Oleg's numbers... wonder if I trust the CloD's ones) and some detail is really welcomed in a sim... but after these aspects at the moment the modded IL2 is still superior to CloD... FACT  Of course It's a 10 year old application vs an alpha one. Ops... and 5€ against the 50€ that some of us had paid leading to some bad reactions. Quote:
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As for reminding the people in charge people are still waiting? They are working on a patch, I dont think anyones negative posting is inspiring them any further
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