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08-25-2011, 12:18 PM
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so... Yes he would def buy CoD Last edited by Ze-Jamz; 08-25-2011 at 12:20 PM. 
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08-25-2011, 01:46 PM
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 And if he does still he would not fly with us: in these weeks we fly modded IL2, Condor and RoF. I agree that CEM is great, DM seems a lot better (but which are the numbers inserted in the DM model? IIRC We have a PP 3x slower than the real one and "inverted" of course... are DM really "right"? I didn't trust Oleg's numbers... wonder if I trust the CloD's ones) and some detail is really welcomed in a sim... but after these aspects at the moment the modded IL2 is still superior to CloD... FACT  Of course It's a 10 year old application vs an alpha one. Ops... and 5€ against the 50€ that some of us had paid leading to some bad reactions. Quote:
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 A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria. Last edited by 6S.Manu; 08-25-2011 at 02:16 PM.
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08-25-2011, 02:56 PM
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some time a go...
I liked the article, it was written in an interesting “opinion maker way” style but with what it seems to be a deep feeling for the company 1C and for the genre of simulation.
Some time ago things written in the mentioned article would have been solved with a lightning fast ban... I guess truth or the absence of other alternative is stubborn and gets through the cracks in the walls and underneath the closed doors. Anyway, in the article is the first time, expressed in a formal way, that someone makes considerations about the possibility that “the market” is not ready to swallow this, Clod I mean…I just love how North Americans talk about “the market”, customers as a community of market makers that will define the fate of a product. Most things are not like 10 years ago, almost none of them. The market for sure is not the same. Salutes Last edited by Majo; 08-25-2011 at 03:13 PM.
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08-25-2011, 03:13 PM
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Really in these months our squad is experiencing every kind of sim... and CloD is not one of these (even if we all bought it)
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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08-25-2011, 04:13 PM
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Now THAT def wouldnt do it for me
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08-25-2011, 05:15 PM
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But I tried it and it's really enjoyable...
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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08-25-2011, 04:07 PM
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Back on track.. These are your thoughts mate and your welcomed to them what im saying is that just because YOU wont play it, dont enjoy it or have no faith in it doesnt mean a new pilot joining us wont.. there are lots of pilots who purchase this game and love it since day one even in its current form..NO one knows and NO ONE will EVERRR know why it was released and know it to be 100% correct so thats the way it is..we have to live with it Its really not a FACT that Il2 is better than ClOD or the other way round..WE as in Me and You can presume and have our opinions thats it.. Il2 looks and feels old..Imo hence why I cant go back and play it, blowing nearly every aircraft into tiny pieces with cannon doesnt really do it for me..if its content that rocks your boat then be my guest too I have one map, pretty much 1 plane i fly and still would take that over an OLD feeling game like Il2 whatever its content and stabilty.. Ive been here moaning and bitching just like everyone else but you know what..? And as youve already stated...Its Boring, will always be Boring Its quite simple, each to their own, and that way it will stay but dont presume everyone feels and has the same opinion as you Last edited by Ze-Jamz; 08-25-2011 at 04:15 PM.
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08-25-2011, 05:27 PM
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 And of course most of my opinions are shared by my squad mates. Damn... I know many virtual squads in Italy and our friends share this opinion too (or they think the worst)!!! I know that CloD could became the most awesome flight sim ever: the problem is that it's not there yet, and it's far from that target. Nobody here is hoping they fail. Some day ago I opened a thread on our board about my positive feeling flying in CloD: the DM detail, the CEM ect. ... but still nobody want to fly it, and are hoping for the next patch to change their mind.
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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