Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

no, i just said that as a way just returning the "idiot" mud throwing really. irritating isn't it?
the spelling is still off.
that lerche track posted shows it being used, it doesn't show anything else. and as someone else said this is an old cheat using a conf.ini exploit. so what i think uther was looking for was undeniable proof. this has not materialised. i think all uther wanted was osmething concrete as opposed to the hysterical "it's all cheating"

So said person was "looking" for undenible proof, said person "wants" concrete evidance?

Pardon my less than perfect english (i know how it enoys u)...but i couldnt care less.


Doenst matter what kind of proof will be posted, there will allways be a "if" or "but" in there somewhere. I hope those with proof (me being one of them) will relize that in the next page or 2 so we can put this joke of a thredh to bed to. A joke, as in: never ending story.

Those with proof can show them where it actually matters, to Oleg for ex. so it can help him come up with a solution (not that i think it will happen). Maby post them over at Ubi zoo showing people what to look out for. Just a couple of examples.


BTW, Im still bilingual, with english as my second language...how about u?


Maby i can post in my native language and u can correct my spelling then to...mmm, how about it?

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

Pardon my less than perfect english (i know how it enoys u)...but i couldnt care less.


BTW, Im still bilingual, with english as my second language...how about u?


Maby i can post in my native language and u can correct my spelling then to...mmm, how about it?

doesn't sound like someone who couldn't care less.

as for the rest, it's simple. a fraps video showing modded files, showing version 4.08, showing log on to chkruntime=2 server, and showing in game cheating. fair enough if evidence is posted, just make it so holes can't be picked in it. the lerche "cheat" has been shown to be another factor, not the soundmod itself.
to put my position, all i have seen posted is that people have tried to use it in chkruntime=2 servers, as a test, and have failed. maybe some new files have come out, or whatever, but i have not seen those.
as for looking for the undeniable evidence... yeah i'd want that if i was being called scum. wouldn't you?

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

doesn't sound like someone who couldn't care less.

as for the rest, it's simple. a fraps video showing modded files, showing version 4.08, showing log on to chkruntime=2 server, and showing in game cheating. fair enough if evidence is posted, just make it so holes can't be picked in it. the lerche "cheat" has been shown to be another factor, not the soundmod itself.
to put my position, all i have seen posted is that people have tried to use it in chkruntime=2 servers, as a test, and have failed. maybe some new files have come out, or whatever, but i have not seen those.
as for looking for the undeniable evidence... yeah i'd want that if i was being called scum. wouldn't you?

"Doesnt sound like someone who couldnt care less"?....the me couldnt care less part is me not posting proof here of all places.


And as i said, there will allways be a "if" or a "but". Someone could show tracks of cheating saying "i was there doing it" (wich someone allredy did). and there woould still be "ifs" and "buts" (we allredy seen thoose) ..so whats the point.


U say the Lerche cheat has been proven to be somethingelse than sound mod cheat.....where was that proven?


Must have missed that part.


Checkruntime=2 has been said to stop only the complete novice, nothing more.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

"Doesnt sound like someone who couldnt care less"?....the me couldnt care less part is me not posting proof here of all places.


And as i said, there will allways be a "if" or a "but". Someone could show tracks of cheating saying "i was there doing it" (wich someone allredy did). and there woould still be "ifs" and "buts" (we allredy seen thoose) ..so whats the point.


U say the Lerche cheat has been proven to be somethingelse than sound mod cheat.....where was that proven?


Must have missed that part.


Checkruntime=2 has been said to stop only the complete novice, nothing more.

it "has been said" but not shown. as for the rest, well apparently the lerche is done by messing with the conf.ini file.
the posted track just shows a lerche in a server, not the version used (i believe 4.05 is easier to change critical files), not the server security settings, nothing other than it being used. it is out of context, and that's what makes it really little else than a standard to gather around for anyone who has already convinced themselves.

want to prove it? post a fraps vid of all the steps, that will cover any doubt.
if you're worried about posting a cheat tutorial, well... according to you there is no need for a tutorial, is there? everyone is doing it already.

and zap, well i didn't read that bit so could you post me a link - always good to have the information. as for intelligence to do it... well, actually looking for it is more of a factor. i guess you're on there more than i am. hey! here's an idea, why don't you do the fraps vid, seeing as you have access.
as for the kiddie thing... well recent poll shows the average age to be pushing into the thirties. there may be other forums you are referring to but i guess that's the only one you've managed to find so far.

[Evgeny]

I think it's time to stop, guys. We don't need a hacking forum here.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Evgeny

I think it's time to stop, guys. We don't need a hacking forum here.

Thats right Evgeny. Personally I believe we should have a combat flying 101 class thread here because apparently this is where the real problem lies IMO..

These guys couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack...

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Evgeny

I think it's time to stop, guys. We don't need a hacking forum here.

fair do's evgeny, no we don't. sorry for anything that crosses the line in that respect.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Evgeny

I think it's time to stop, guys. We don't need a hacking forum here.

you have my vote !

kick the lot of them out

[stalkervision]

zapatista stop whining like a girl and just try to become a better combat flier why don't you? Hell, I have shot down two to three mig 15s in a Ju-88 for christs sakes! I have shot down Me-109's in dogfights with a-20!

You apparently already are expert in one hand hand managment. Why don't you put all that constant practice to a good use for once?.....

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

it "has been said" but not shown. as for the rest, well apparently the lerche is done by messing with the conf.ini file.
the posted track just shows a lerche in a server, not the version used (i believe 4.05 is easier to change critical files), not the server security settings, nothing other than it being used. it is out of context, and that's what makes it really little else than a standard to gather around for anyone who has already convinced themselves.

want to prove it? post a fraps vid of all the steps, that will cover any doubt.
if you're worried about posting a cheat tutorial, well... according to you there is no need for a tutorial, is there? everyone is doing it already.

and zap, well i didn't read that bit so could you post me a link - always good to have the information. as for intelligence to do it... well, actually looking for it is more of a factor. i guess you're on there more than i am. hey! here's an idea, why don't you do the fraps vid, seeing as you have access.
as for the kiddie thing... well recent poll shows the average age to be pushing into the thirties. there may be other forums you are referring to but i guess that's the only one you've managed to find so far.

The tracks with the Lerche is 4.09...suprises me if there are any doubts about that what so ever.


And your right about the "checkruntime=2 stops only the basement dwelers"..it has only been said...as it has ONLY been said that the Lerche is a old cheat done with confini (first thing iv ever heard about such a easy cheat..wonder why noone used it before)

So, thoose things have only been said, wich leaves us with several tracks showing an ex. of what can be done by a waaay larger group than before. A Lerache on several servers (the biggest ones on HL in fact) where there shouldnt be a Learche......i know cus i fly on several of them myselfe.


I know wich i belive over other claims made or said.


Saying a posted proof is an old cheat doesnt cut it. If u or any onelse wanna contest it.....do so by posting exact same proof showing its a fake. Thats how it works.