Patience is a virtue...

[SlipBall]

Well I did buy it, but have not complained as of yet. Someday this is going to be a great trouble free sim...haven't been able to run it yet! but my money may help them survive

[addman]

I paid my 40€ for this game, I don't owe anybody to do anything. If I like the game and consider it functioning and playable with a lot of good content then I will praise it. If it's buggy, broken, unoptimized and lacking in content then I will tell it like it is. This is how a consumer should reason, if you try to defend something that doesn't deserve to be defended then you're doing other consumers a great disservice. As I said in the beginning, I paid what the game maker asked from me, he is the one who has to prove to me that I spent my money well.

Being a sim does not excuse this game in any way, that's selective thinking and is only for the deluded. A game is a game is a game, no more no less. Yes, patience is a virtue, maybe next time 1c/MG/Ubi can have the patience to wait for us to pay until their product is finished, patience is indeed a virtue that should apply to EVERYONE.

[Chivas]

Those very very bad developers should have told us not to buy their unfinished product, but it would have been counterproductive for EVERYONE. Atleast now there is a chance the new funds will finance further development as seems to be case at the moment. Yes we all could have waited until the sim was in better condition before we bought it, but without the added financing the sim would have shut down long before that happened. Consider it an investment that could net you another ten years of decent entertainment. The alternative is not good.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Of course its my fault..... I missed Luthiers post the night before the release saying listen up guys the game is nowhere near finished so please be warned, it wont run out of the box well at all, the sounds are crap thats why we avoided showing you any sounds, the videos we showed you were all faked so the game appeared to be running fine, the leaked video that got you all excited showing how well the game ran was a clever little marketing ploy, when i told you all that I like shiney new planes it was because the weathering didn't work and I was making it up about SLI working when i said 'why wouldn't it'. AA doesn't function at all, we also mislead you about the PC's not having enough ram at the Russian show so thats why it looked so choppy and the FPS was appalling. Ubisoft advertising directX 11 is just an oversight, and when we put cooperative play on the box we just assumed it may work. Yep, definetley my fault Robtek.

Mate, seriously, at least half of these were stuff you were questioning and complaining about way before release.

Let's be honest here, you didn't get fooled by anyone, you just chose to ignore your own predictions and hope it will turn out well. It didn't and then you got disappointed.

You know i mean no offense, i just find it hard to believe you got fooled when you were calling it out yourself weeks/months before it was released

[furbs]

Blackdog...i think Tree would agree with you, he didn't get fooled but his post could mean all the people that did.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Mate, seriously, at least half of these were stuff you were questioning and complaining about way before release.

Let's be honest here, you didn't get fooled by anyone, you just chose to ignore your own predictions and hope it will turn out well. It didn't and then you got disappointed.

You know i mean no offense, i just find it hard to believe you got fooled when you were calling it out yourself weeks/months before it was released

Thank you for the recognition, I bet Luthier hated me, I saw through so much of the Bull Dust, he most of thought I was working in his office, your right of course, i didn't get fooled, but I still supported the sim because we have nothing else. In order to discuss the woes of this sim you have to have purchased it first right?. However my biggest disappointment is not with the Bull crap before release but the poor effort in communication after, and of course the complete lack of an apology of any sorts after trousering our cash, Oleg left looking like a petty criminal rather then being showered in the glory that he much deserved. That is a shame and much of it is his own doing.

[Bryan21cag]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Those very very bad developers should have told us not to buy their unfinished product, but it would have been counterproductive for EVERYONE. At least now there is a chance the new funds will finance further development as seems to be case at the moment. Yes we all could have waited until the sim was in better condition before we bought it, but without the added financing the sim would have shut down long before that happened. Consider it an investment that could net you another ten years of decent entertainment. The alternative is not good.

LOL They didn't need to trick me in order to get my money

I LOVE IL2 series and therefore I would be happy to part with not only $50.00 for the game but i would gladly donate plenty more for further development as needed if they were just honest about the state of the sim's development. hell i would have dropped like $500 bucks on them and than found a way to deducted it on my taxes or something. I have spent at least that much in other games and hobbies to fill in for the time I would have loved to have been playing the next Great WWII flight sim by there team ....LOL.....sigh

I'm sure I am not the only one that would have done that. They could have at least tried this first and then if no one came forward willing to invest in the future of WWII flight sims then they could have moved into the lets just release it and hope for more money to finish it plan

Not really holding a grudge about it any more but felt a bit like i had been led into an alley by a Jennifer Aniston for treats and than Ravaged in my virgin part by BUBBA against my will instead, after the first releases and patches.

next time i guess

cheers

Originally Posted by Chivas

Those very very bad developers should have told us not to buy their unfinished product, but it would have been counterproductive for EVERYONE. Atleast now there is a chance the new funds will finance further development as seems to be case at the moment. Yes we all could have waited until the sim was in better condition before we bought it, but without the added financing the sim would have shut down long before that happened. Consider it an investment that could net you another ten years of decent entertainment. The alternative is not good.

Sorry, but yet again this is just pure speculation.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Sorry, but yet again this is just pure speculation.

Lol really, tree your the king of speculation and now a massive hypocrite

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Lol really, tree your the king of speculation and now a massive hypocrite

Well I hit the mark on most, but i will keep the 'King' bit.