Just imagine CloD with WoP map

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The Trees arn't that realistic, you can fly through them!! which i think is a terrible shame. The terrain detail really does let this Sim down, its shoddy and badly coded and I still cannot believe its an entirely new engine. And then we have that awful shimmer still that we had all those years ago in the original IL2.

WOP 2 could easily be the answer to all our prayers, Oleg and Luthier have certainly left the door wide open for someone to steal thier crowns.

Hmm, good point on the trees. I wsa talking aesthetically, but that is definately something else which needs to be taken into consideration.
It seems that CloD is more a test of what is capable (or rather, not capable) with current hardware, with the incentive of it being absolutely bloody amazing in the future (I mean, what other flight-sim models individual leaves on the trees! It's just bonkers! But, arguably, quite cool)

[David198502]

well modeling individual leaves is insane,while you can fly through whole forests.
i think they focused on wrong things in designing the map.while i agree that its pretty cool to have grass blowing in the wind,and every single leave animated, i think the overall look of the landscape is a bit disappointing,considering that it was six years developed.what i think could improve the appearance a lot, is to get the colours right, and the position of the trees.i mean in clod we dont have real forests.instead we have a crowd of individual trees positioned near each other.but you can see between the trees on the ground.
and there are those trees next to roads and rivers which just look strange.and the colours of the trees,well it was mentioned now several times...get them darker.
also the colour of the fields.i have to confess,i have only been to england once,and that was 10years ago.so im not an expert when its about british landscape.but the look of england in cod just doesnt convince me.i have seen fields almost pink coloured.there are many colours(in my opinion too many) that just seem wrong to me.and it would eat no recources from our rigs to show different colours.

well and looking at those wop screenshots,make me feel even more dissapointed about the landscape in clod.i know there is plenty wrong when its about realistic look in wop either, but the position of the trees and the overall look, just looks more natural to me.

[Ekar]

I think the biggest difference between ClOD and WOP terrain is that WOP looks like it is relying more on photographic textures, while ClOD's textures appear to be more hand painted. The WOP textures also have good resolution and use to good effect a secondary colour/noise map to break up the pixelation at low altitude. WOP's England map is probably the weakest map in the game (due to the 'green' filter)- some of the others are really beautiful and give a good sense of realism for a modern game. When I compare these to ClOD, I am unfortunately disappointed with ClOD's terrain visuals. Tree clumping and placement is more natural looking in WOP. Terrain elements hang together better- cities or built up areas appear as part of the landscape rather than being plonked on top.

I would agree with other posters that the ClOD artists may have spent too much time working on individual assets and less time trying to make everything work together as an efficient and believable whole. It's this discontinuity between elements as well as the hand painted, artificial look of the ground textures that brings down ClOD's terrain visuals, imo. Disappointing, but not unfixable. I hope the terrain gets a look at by the devs at some point because it's doing a disservice to the awesome cockpit graphics, which I believe are probably the best in flight simming right now.

[ChicoMick]

Even low shots look good I think.

...just an innocent comment btw

[RocketDog]

Originally Posted by ChicoMick

Even low shots look good I think.

...just an innocent comment btw

That looks excellent!

[Lololopoulos]

Originally Posted by ChicoMick

Even low shots look good I think.

...just an innocent comment btw

i don't see any "green puke".

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Lololopoulos

i don't see any "green puke".

That photo, and every WoP screenshot of England, has a puke green hue to it. If you can't see it, it's because you are desperately trying to pretend it isn't there.

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

That photo, and every WoP screenshot of England, has a puke green hue to it. If you can't see it, it's because you are desperately trying to pretend it isn't there.

yup

[jt_medina]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

That photo, and every WoP screenshot of England, has a puke green hue to it. If you can't see it, it's because you are desperately trying to pretend it isn't there.

Most of us agreed that at some moments colors in WOP are over saturated, but I think what most of us mean is that graphically speaking wop looks way better and if we overlook this excessive color saturation, buildings, trees look better implemented in the landscape.

People can say, WOP maps are smaller, agreed fm and dm is not as good as in IL2 COD but, I play both and wop feels much more immersive in the graphical aspect(only ) sometimes almost photo realistic.

I am the one who would really like to see WOP graphics with IL2 COD.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by jt_medina

Most of us agreed that at some moments colors in WOP are over saturated, but I think what most of us mean is that graphically speaking wop looks way better and if we overlook this excessive color saturation, buildings, trees look better implemented in the landscape.

People can say, WOP maps are smaller, agreed fm and dm is not as good as in IL2 COD but, I play both and wop feels much more immersive in the graphical aspect(only ) sometimes almost photo realistic.

I am the one who would really like to see WOP graphics with IL2 COD.

Yes, if you can ignore the fact that the WoP colors are laughably bad it looks great. Sadly, I can't ignore colors so bad that they make my eyes bleed.