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05-19-2011, 11:15 AM
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Wait...?!
Are you saying that when you increase the throttle SLOWLY in IL2 1946... ...it does NOT jump 1-3? (but instead goes in smooth 1% increments) Are you saying that when you SLOWLY reverse the throttle in IL2 1946... ...it does NOT jump 2-6%? (but instead goes back the single 1%) When I started out, I thought my bad aim at high speeds were due to my lacking skills... I did not realize that there was a quite major flaw in the G940 compounding the problem. While the reversal bug has been fixed for the X/Y axis on the stick(via a firmware update which is all but easy to find), ALL other analogues still have this glitch. While not a big thing for a newbie, it WILL annoy the HECK out of you as you improve. What is worse, is that Logitech has been working on a fix for this since they released the stick. Furthermore they give close to no feedback on what the plans/schedules are. So, don't count on the rest of the axis being fixed. The really appalling flaw of the G940 is that one of the cables going from the buttons on throttle to its base, are 1cm too short and made from a brittle material. Meaning after about 4-6 months of use, you will start seeing R1&R2 jitter as you move the throtte(and thus the cables) back and forth. While this is not hard to fix, it is a defect by design. In short... - The G940 is overprised! - Has a design flaw which WILL break the throttle automatically. - Has a bug which remains un-fixed after 2 years. - The profiler(which binds the keys etc) is adequate at best, but actually rather "sub par" - There is close to NO information from Logitech and they are SLOW to produce Software. + The Logitech phone support is very professional and serviceminded. + The only HOTAS FFB stick on the market. + Once you figure out how to fix the wires in the throttle, it is a sturdy piece of EQ. + Once you resign to throttle frenetically up and down to get to specific percentages or RPMs, the reversal bug on the throttle is nothing more than a constant inconvenience. 
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05-19-2011, 11:24 AM
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Great video examples, thanks for the information. I can imagine that would be a nightmare to work with!
Cheers, MP
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05-19-2011, 01:02 PM
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05-19-2011, 07:55 PM
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Yammo, thanks for sharing your experience... I've been looking at the logitech for a couple of months now and have read about a gazillion review that all pretty much say the same thing, that is other than the reversal bug and the r1-r2 spiking people are generally happy with the controller.
I have been flying various flight sims for ages now with an X-45 (no rudder pedals) that is starting to feel like it's going to die. Trying to find a replacement for the thing is becoming very frustrating. The x-52pro seems to be out of production or at least unavailable in Canada. I can pick one up through Amazon.com but am familiar enough with Saitek's lack of consistency that I want a local store to return the thing to. With the twist grip I would still have to buy rudder pedals. The Logitech seems pricey if it doesn't work, but in reality it's the best priced controller out there. The only other real alternative that's not decades old is the TM warthog, or the Saitek X65f and my flight simming is more of a play for a few months, then move on to something else for a while. Certainly nowhere near hardcore enough to justify the $600 price tag or $400 for the X65f and then still have to buy pedals. I noticed that Mazex got a new part number with his replacement G940 and I'm really hoping that Logitech has fixed the rotary spiking. I can live with the reversal bug in the throttle and rudder because quite honestly, for my style of flying I can live with it. I've never fussed about that kind of precision.
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05-20-2011, 08:58 AM
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06-23-2011, 09:40 AM
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Thanx mate
I still haven't decided what to do... I WILL not pay that amount of dough for a rig I need to mod the sec I buy it. Besides I am a lousy technician... I only dared to mod my x45 cuz I had too many gin and tonics at the time.... I was really considering the G940, but as far as I can see, nothing has been done to the throttle.. for me this is a dealbreaker as I fly a LOT in tight formation.. I think I just might get a x52, keep my CH stick which I love, and buy myself a pair of the new Saitek Combat rudders.. sorry Logitech.. precision is a key factor for me....
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06-27-2011, 07:44 PM
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I was wrong on both accounts. The reversal bug (hysteresis) was much worse than I had thought and Logitech is no closer to a fix that when I bought it! (although the 12/2010 firmware update was refreshing to see) I guess if I was a "yank and banker" I wouldn't notice it but my flying style is more about precision. I had heard of other people using Leo Bodnar's BU0836 board to modify the G940 but could find very little information on exactly how to do so which is why I created the write up about it at this location: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23950 After doing this mod which cost me about US$50 total I love my G940 once again! The mod CAN be done a lot cheaper if you have a donor joystick and are able to use its electronics in lieu of the BU0836 board. I also see no need to purchase the more precise, more expensive BU0836A board for this application. I'm not even sure the cheap potentiometers that Logitech uses would be precise enough to play well with the BU0836A!
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