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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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Communication can be better, but it's a double edged sword in a way.

I agree that it would not hurt one bit for Luthier to quickly pop on here and say: "Sorry, no patch this weekend...very busy right now...got to run."

But on the other hand, do we expect him to lay out a roadmap for the next two or three months? That can get messy.
If he commits himself to saying that (for example) engine sounds will be implemented in the next two months, people are going to consider that written in stone and hold him to that.
Then some problem crops up, maybe something nothing related to sound, but it puts the schedule behind by a few weeks.
Then people start compaining that they were lied to, that this game will never be finished etc.
You know how it goes.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:23 PM
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Communication can be better, but it's a double edged sword in a way.

I agree that it would not hurt one bit for Luthier to quickly pop on here and say: "Sorry, no patch this weekend...very busy right now...got to run."

But on the other hand, do we expect him to lay out a roadmap for the next two or three months? That can get messy.
If he commits himself to saying that (for example) engine sounds will be implemented in the next two months, people are going to consider that written in stone and hold him to that.
Then some problem crops up, maybe something nothing related to sound, but it puts the schedule behind by a few weeks.
Then people start compaining that they were lied to, that this game will never be finished etc.
You know how it goes.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Yeah you right. But he used to come here on fridays and drop a message: We might be posting up a beta patch in a couple hours, or if not ready by tonight it will appear on monday.

People can't possibly be saying this is written in stone at all... And it makes us more patient (or not, but it certainly gives us some understanding of what's being done and what to expect shortly), unlike being left in total blackout.

Especially since the last (3rd) betapatch which we have yet to know if he is going to implement it, or not implement it, is he going to make a beta patch (BetaPatch episode IV: A new hope) or jump straight to an official release...

etc... etc...
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:21 PM
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They ARE working their butts off as far as I can tell. Game gets better every other patch or so I would wrather get 1 messge from Luthier than 10 messges from a PR agent.

Just my 2 cents.

Chris

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Old 05-13-2011, 06:30 PM
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Just thinking out loud;
I think it's above their heads,they ran into the border of their and/or the game's abilities...
Does the Ubisite also already approve mod threads?
If so i think they gave up,it's not even out yet in the USA,just my thoughts...
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:45 PM
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They ARE working their butts off as far as I can tell. Game gets better every other patch or so I would wrather get 1 messge from Luthier than 10 messges from a PR agent.

Just my 2 cents.

Chris
Another example of "game works fine for me anyone angry is a whiner".

Have you really managed to overlook all the guys having WORSE performance after the patches?
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:55 PM
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The drama is unbearable... or maybe I should say unbearable boring.

The devs are working on it. As long as that is happening why waste time writing and analyzing it.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:45 PM
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The drama is unbearable... or maybe I should say unbearable boring.

The devs are working on it. As long as that is happening why waste time writing and analyzing it.
Yes, why not close the entire forum and let people do something constructive. I can´t understand this "devs are working on it, praise them or leave them be" -attitude. Why? Because none of the patches so far has made any difference in game´s performance for me. Now, I understand that some of us are getting better results, but AT LEAST half of the users are still suffering from abysmall performance. And this "only constructive praising allowed" -trend in this forum is giving them headache.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:51 PM
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Help I'm bleeding.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:13 PM
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Yes, why not close the entire forum and let people do something constructive. I can´t understand this "devs are working on it, praise them or leave them be" -attitude. Why? Because none of the patches so far has made any difference in game´s performance for me. Now, I understand that some of us are getting better results, but AT LEAST half of the users are still suffering from abysmall performance. And this "only constructive praising allowed" -trend in this forum is giving them headache.
Your opinion of course. Your "half of users are still suffering" etc. You take too much on yourself. It always amazes me at self generated statistics people promote.

There are plenty of things to discuss without all the continual drama. Reminds me of a bunch of busy-body women sitting on the couch having their cookies and coffee talk.


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Old 05-13-2011, 11:53 PM
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Yes, why not close the entire forum and let people do something constructive. I can´t understand this "devs are working on it, praise them or leave them be" -attitude. Why? Because none of the patches so far has made any difference in game´s performance for me. Now, I understand that some of us are getting better results, but AT LEAST half of the users are still suffering from abysmall performance. And this "only constructive praising allowed" -trend in this forum is giving them headache.
Synti, What are your PC Specs? What settings are you using? What do you class as acceptable performance? What problems are you actually experiencing and in what circumstances?

The difference in asking for assistance and whining is that someone who wants to work towards a solution will actually state what the problem is. A whiner just moans on like a broken record. It's boring, repetitive and annoying.

The people that you are bashing in your posts are long standing members of the forum that have added to the community over the years by disseminating information and actively helping people with issues, and being involved in many, many (some time intense) debates.

They are not in the habit of demanding to have questions answered by the developers, demanding to have content added or post poorly written 'Open Letters' to elicite a response and waste the time of the very busy developers.

What do you intend to add to the community?

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