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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-13-2011, 04:49 PM
15JG52_Brauer 15JG52_Brauer is offline
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+1 In my working life I have always said I can manage good news, or bad news, it's just no news I can't manage. Communication is key, with the team, with the stakeholders, and yes with the customers.
Here we the community is both part of the team (unpaid beta testers) and the customer - and given that we can influence our friends and colleagues opinions, we are key influencers as well. I know parts of the community has a tendency to jump on anything you say and some twist it to their own needs - but some news good or bad will stop some of the wild speculation and allow the level headed amongst us to make informed judgements.
I hope we get some form of update on the next patch eta and roadmap soon, but I won’t hold my breath, though it would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:53 PM
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Well written open letter but...
...I don't have the game yet so I hang here in the forum.
If I had the game I'd be flying while waiting for patches!
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:58 PM
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Nice +1
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:18 PM
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Yet this "Huge Fan" can't be bothered to support this game financially. While there's merit in your words, I think the opinion just lost any weight. Go buy the game, then continue your criticisms...
+1.
Also +1 to the point Sternjaeger II brings up. We would appreciate (us people, who actually bought the game and beta test it.) to have an update on what is going on.

hum... I'm wondering if they haven't come back from that holiday, made a quick and dirty beta (apparently knocking out multiplayer....) then leave back to their vacations !! !! Cause, FRANKLY... voila...
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:21 PM
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Yet this "Huge Fan" can't be bothered to support this game financially. While there's merit in your words, I think the opinion just lost any weight. Go buy the game, then continue your criticisms...
That kind of caught my eye too... People who have supported the game financially get called trolls for speaking out their frustration, but praising the devs whether owning the game or not seems allways be +100.

This is a strange, strange forum...
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:11 PM
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That kind of caught my eye too... People who have supported the game financially get called trolls for speaking out their frustration, but praising the devs whether owning the game or not seems allways be +100.

This is a strange, strange forum...
You hit the nail on the head, sir!

It's a great start, but the forum ought to be a place where fans can voice their concerns and criticisms to help the devs know what aspects of the game to work on.

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Old 05-13-2011, 05:38 PM
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Yet this "Huge Fan" can't be bothered to support this game financially. While there's merit in your words, I think the opinion just lost any weight. Go buy the game, then continue your criticisms...
That's your assumption. I bought every single edition of Maddox Games IL-2 series, also have CoD, just don't have the rig for it.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:59 AM
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Yet this "Huge Fan" can't be bothered to support this game financially. While there's merit in your words, I think the opinion just lost any weight. Go buy the game, then continue your criticisms...
hey cheesedick you need to learn to read. He said "I unfortunately haven't had a chance to play with the new sim yet" He did not say anything about not buying it. Jeez you cant read but you are let loose on a computer lol no wonder the devs are going to struggle with this game. Shit whats going to happen if they hypothetically release a file and tell you to put it in for example C:\steam\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core\GUI you will be whackin it in my pictures folder and then moan that the game dont work doh
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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...Communication is key, with the team, with the stakeholders, and yes with the customers..
Customers are included in the stakeholders. I know you tried to be redundant here... After all, this forum is aviation related.
Cheers.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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Communication can be better, but it's a double edged sword in a way.

I agree that it would not hurt one bit for Luthier to quickly pop on here and say: "Sorry, no patch this weekend...very busy right now...got to run."

But on the other hand, do we expect him to lay out a roadmap for the next two or three months? That can get messy.
If he commits himself to saying that (for example) engine sounds will be implemented in the next two months, people are going to consider that written in stone and hold him to that.
Then some problem crops up, maybe something nothing related to sound, but it puts the schedule behind by a few weeks.
Then people start compaining that they were lied to, that this game will never be finished etc.
You know how it goes.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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