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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-28-2011, 09:36 PM
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@Bulldozer

it is my experience that mixing numbers an capital letters in a screenname is done, in the overwhelming majority, by the, let say : less older, people (i.e. kids), to appear "special".
So your name might have misguided me, my bad.
So if you are a college absolvement and a ifr-rated pilot with a steady income you could easily spend those 49€ for something that might give you more fun than the reason for your mentioned loans.
Thats what i think and i also believe that OM gets a bigger margin in the rest of the world than in russia.
I think even the people with less money here in europe have a much better living-standard than normal people in russia or sourrounding countries, so it should be easier to pay the regular price.
If i have offended you? sorry!

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Old 03-28-2011, 09:51 PM
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I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.
that is the reason why i will buy both.
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I agree. A lot seem to be buying both, though. A western version on preorder for the language and the Russian version in case the western version is never fully capable.
Exactally im not trying to short anyone in fact im paying more since im buying both and supporting two different markets with my money hmmmm i wonder if i can deduct for that?? lol
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:49 AM
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That's the way to go.

Quite frankly, I was planning to cancel me UBI CE pre-order when I've found out about the damn anti-epilepsy measures will stay forever with the western version of the game and the initial bad reports of the state of the game, and only changed my mind after Ive bought the 1C's version.

At this point, I've got 1C's version, and will still get my 50£ UBI CE retail edition. For us westerners, paying 14 $ for an extra russian version is nothing.

If you really think this game has potential, and want to support Maddox, going for both (if you already got the 1C version) is the way.

PS: i do not believe one word of UBI's recent epilepsy filter removing. I mean, they may make the filter damn optional, but that doesn't mean they won't go on with their plan to address individually all the potential epilepsy triggering causes. I won't believe it until I'll see with my own eyes that the graphics of the two versions is the same.
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:34 PM
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There is nothing wrong with a Westerner going to a Russian publisher/ retailer and paying $14 for COD. Let us remember that pc games are made in Russia and China to take advantage of low cost labor. If a customer takes advantage of the $14 price for a digital download, it is only possible because game developers are not willing to pay more for labor in the US or Western Europe. To chastise a Western customer for taking advantage of the lowest price of a Global good or service is at best hypocrisy since Global gaming companies are taking advantage of low costs in Russia and China too. If the gaming industry does not want a Westerner to have the opportunity to get a pc game for $14, just pay the Russians US salaries or move the pc gaming jobs back to California. If I was a 1c executive, I would be outraged that it is not easier for Westerners to deal with 1c, at Russian price points, since 1c would corner the Western market in a about two seconds, if they did.

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Old 03-29-2011, 02:52 PM
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It baffles me how people are regarding money. If you could import something from abroad much cheaper than to buy it in your own country, you don't do it because your country deserves the price premium.

Just don't get that kind of thinking. If you can get something for less, why would you want to pay more? What someone deserves is irrelevant. The prices were set as were set. Probably also by developers. If you can get that goods for lower price and are the same goods, then... why would I want to pay more? Nonsense.
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:54 PM
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well, from economical and free market's point of view, I can understand that.

yet, the income of a game is evaluated by an approximation of the market share willing to buy the game. Saying that X is the number of projected customers willing to buy it, and knowing the price at which you'll sell it, you can evaluate a potential income, and based on that, how much can you spend for development for how long a time, in order to cover the costs and (eventually) make some profit.

now, if you'll sell only x/2 on the western market at western market's known price (you've used in costs/profits formula), because the other x/2 actually bought it from russian market, it means you'll lose money, so you'll stop developing that game.

simple.

you can enforce the same price everywhere, yet that would mean the users from poor countries won't buy it at all, and you'll close a possibility to make some extra money from there, while encouraging piracy (because the same poor countries users who want to play it, will still play it by pirating it).
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:02 PM
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It baffles me how people are regarding money. If you could import something from abroad much cheaper than to buy it in your own country, you don't do it because your country deserves the price premium.

Just don't get that kind of thinking. If you can get something for less, why would you want to pay more? What someone deserves is irrelevant. The prices were set as were set. Probably also by developers. If you can get that goods for lower price and are the same goods, then... why would I want to pay more? Nonsense.
Your economic history might be poor.

People and countries are willing to do that in order to protect themselves.

If your country wants to protect national agriculture and develop it, yet that agriculture produces at a higher price than imported products, the state might want to rise the import taxes, exactly to make the imported products cost more than the national produced ones. It might also want to make its citizens aware to buy national products instead imported ones.

WW2 Combat Flight simulators game development market is a niche market. It means it has few potential customers, and therefore must practice high costs with small profits. We're not talking EA/Activisionlike businesses turning money with the tens of millions in here.

If you don't understand that you need to support a niche market as long as you think it worth and have the means to do it, then you as well are doomed to remain without it.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:06 PM
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I think that this threat is not about money!
The question is simple, can we change the language of the Russian version to English?

Cheers!
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:07 PM
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You all are right. Why should I pay more?

What some just don't seem to get: They bought a russian game. And now they are whining around, stating that the game is in russian? Seems a bit odd.

By the way. I could also rant about a Volkswagen Passat with uber-luxurious features is sold in the US for 30k Dollars, whereas here I'd have to pay 40k Euros.

You bought a Russian game. That's why it is in Russian language. You might have known that at the time you were buying.
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